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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
As in, "Donald Trump is thug." "Thug" doesn't necessarily convey criminality to me, just a tough guy image.Welcome back, Faith.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
But doctrine we are supposed to judge and judge carefully.quote:So, away with the commentators and centuries of tradition. Read what Christ said. quote:And the fruits are? quote:And no Caps lock key. Welcome back, Faith.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
On the contrary, I don't claim to know anything. I just quote what the Bible actually says.
You're a perfect example of one who thinks you know it all and gets it all wrong. Faith writes:
I have a clue what the Bible actually says: "love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance". I'm sure you have no clue that the "know them by their fruits" passage refers to the burgeoning Roman Church.... If somebody displays caps-locked hatred toward LEFTISTS, etc., I have a clue that they're following false prophets and not the Bible.Welcome back, Faith.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
It isn't your talk against my talk. It's your talk against the Bible. You're deadly deceived. I **** to leave you to delude everybody else here but they **** your delusional talk better than my true talk so there's not a lot I can do about it.Welcome back, Faith.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
On the contrary, a library doesn't have an overall context. You're trying to reconcile War and Peace with Animal Farm and Catcher in the Rye, which is why you're so confused. And your confusion shows up as anger.
You can't read the Bible piecemeal **** that, it has to be read in the context of the whole thing. Faith writes:
A "whole teaching" should not contradict its parts. For example, you cherry-pick a verse about shedding blood and twist that into an endorsement of capital punishment - but you ignore where God forbade killing Cain and you ignore where Jesus forbade killing the adulterous woman. If there is a "whole teaching" about capital punishment it certainly is not an endorsement. Either the Bible is inconsistent about the subject or your interpretation is just flat-out wrong. ... but whole teachings may not mean what you think they mean if you read everything that applies to them.Welcome back, Faith.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
And yet you always run away from critical thinking. Critical thinking should be supportable. Critical thinking SUPPORTS the traditional viewIzquierdo.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Classic case of beam-in-the-eye syndrome.
You get it wrong and don't know it. I know it because I do have spiritual discernment.quote: Izquierdo.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
That sounds like a copout, an excuse to dismiss them without thinking about their position at all. I would seek to know the motives of the scholars and the motives of the revisionists if in fact there actually were revisionists.Izquierdo.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Don't be silly. It's about discernment in general. If you can't discern one, you can't discern the other. The beam in the eye is about sin, not about doctrine.Izquierdo.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Again, copout. A "spiritual argument" is an excuse to dismiss actual evidence. If Darwin, Karl Marx and Hitler agree on something, the correct way to evaluate it is on the evidence, not the motivation. My only assertion is that their motives themselves need to become part of the evidence so that we can discern whether or not the argument is spiritual rather than simply bricks and mortar.Izquierdo.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
Discernment is discernment. If you can't discern sin, you can't discern doctrine. It's about condemning sin in others instead of recognizing it in yourself.Izquierdo.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
if there was such a plane, how would you know about it? If in fact there is a spiritual plane apart from matter, physical objective evidence alone will never win any debate. Perhaps you can address that remote possibility.Izquierdo.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
You should try reading it. The very next verse is:
That may be so but that passage nevertheless is about sin and not about doctrine.quote:"Pearls before swine" has more to do with doctrine than sin. Izquierdo.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
But how do you know that the Bible knows what it's talking about? You're using the Bible's words on spirituality to back up the Bible's concept of spirituality.
Thus, the idea that we humans can in fact know "the truth" comes from the Bible itself. Phat writes:
Because it's a circular argument. Perhaps you can address why you think that the arguments in scripture carry little weight in this debate.Izquierdo.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Help me with my Beam while we put your splinter on the back burner!As verse 5 says, "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." Priorities.Izquierdo.
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