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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Percy Member Posts: 22503 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Quoting from the Fox News opinion piece you cited, Jon Summers: Trump's $2 trillion temper tantrum -- President needs to put on big boy pants and get to work:
quote: Also hurt are businesses that have government contracts considered non-essential. The government ceases payouts on those contracts, and so those businesses have some difficult decisions to make concerning retention of personnel and maintaining facilities. Salaries and rent/mortgages and upkeep and so forth must still be paid. There can be a cascade of effects as the business cancels or places on hold any related purchases and contracts with other companies. True story: Someone I know was working on one of these non-essential government projects. The project went dormant, and the company, which is large, dealt with the cessation of funding by temporarily transferring people to active projects. But enough people became dissatisfied and left (either transferring permanently to another project or leaving the company) that the project, even though funding has resumed, is now in serious jeopardy. The project already had other problems, but now it has a personnel problem, too. I won't give anything away about the project other than to say that non-completion places lives and property at risk. Nothing spectacular, but still.--Percy
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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As an aside I watched the news conference where Pelosi appeared later. Does Nancy have a medical problem I'm not aware of? She seemed to be very drunk. Pelosi Video Manipulated To Make Her Sound Drunk On Social Media Video Of Pelosi Manipulated To Make Her Sound Drunk Spreads Through Social Media
quote: More at source, including copy of video in question. TPM has it filed under "real fake news". Better watch your videos from more reliable sources. Moose Edited by Minnemooseus, : Mention video is at source page.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Actually, I watched the press conference live on CNN (well, with a very short delay due to those signals having to travel via satellite all the way from the US to SA). She did seem drunk. I don't consider CNN to normally show fake news. Especially if it is live. I vividly remember her at first not being able remember the word "broadband"; then she couldn't pronounce it and had to get help from someone standing behind her.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
I didn't watch anyting on Fox as I don't watch a p**y-grabbers' official propaganda mouthpiece, but I did watch CNN.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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On one of our topics here, I seem to recall someone pointing out that Pelosi had been up since the middle of the night. That would explain anything that seemed odd as being due to lack of sleep. Certainly we've all been there.
But there's also subtle doctoring of videos, such as you just mentioned where they slowed the video down to make her appear to be drunk. There was also that doctored video of a journalist trying to keep the microphone which was sped up at that point in order to make it appear that he had physically assaulted the intern controlling the mike. The really scary fake video tech is where you can quite literally place whatever words you want into someone's mouth. The demo for that tech had Obama explaining that tech, even though Obama had never ever made that presentation.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Early on in Trump's gov't shutdown -- biggest gov't shutdown ever! Nobody's ever had a gov't shutdown that came anywhere close! And the entire gov't shutdown belonged entirely to Trump, who very personally owned it, nobody ever personally owned a gov't shutdown like Trump did! -- I was made aware of the far greater effects on contract workers and I tried to make my acquaintances aware of it as well.
Government employees (GS-n ratings) at least had some promise of eventually getting back-pay at the end of the dark tunnel, though as it ended up going down there was the additional question of whether they would be able to survive to eventually make it out of that dark tunnel. But the government also hires contractors for many services. To my knowledge, those contractors had no guarantee of receiving any back-pay -- any compensation for government shutdowns would have had to have been included in their contracts; having failed to become a SUPPO, I have no experience in those matters. A lot of janitors/custodians are contractor employed. When I was in the war (USAF-speak for "when I was serving in the US Air Force"), the mess halls were run by contractors. So during Trump's government shutdown, what did those mess hall contractors do? I have to assume that our troops were able to have something to eat, though I have no idea how. I also remember my active duty service, 1976-1982. Somewhen in that time period, we had the threat of a government shutdown which either did not happen or only lasted a few days at most. The USAF made sure to communicate to us that their failure to pay us did not constitute breach of contract, so we still had to report for duty, even for non-pay (ironically, my last decade in the Navy Reserve was in the Voluntary Training Unit (VTU), a non-pay status, but we still accrued retirement points, which I exploited to the max). So then the low-level government workers, those working for contractors, all got screwed over by Trump's government shutdown.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Taq writes:
Congress' subpoena power is another of its implied powers, repeatedly upheld by the Supreme Court. Deutsche Bank has to turn those over because Congress subpoenaed them, a power that Congress was given in the US Constitution. As a 35-year military veteran (6 years active, 29 reserve), I have been through this evolution so many times. The very first lecture in every single NCO Leadership, CPO Indoctrination course was a grand tour through the entire legal justification for the authority of every non-commissioned officer (NCO) and petty officer (PO) and chief petty officer (CPO) to exercise command over subordinates. We always started with the US Constitution. From that, we had laws based on the Constitution. From those laws and other laws derived from the Constitution, etc, we end up with our authority as NCOs or POs to exercise our leadership authority. All other members of the government know what their Constitutional powers are derived from. Except for Trump, who has absolutely no clue.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
And Barr.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Double. I apologise.
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Percy Member Posts: 22503 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Pressie writes: As an aside I watched the news conference where Pelosi appeared later. Does Nancy have a medical problem I'm not aware of? She seemed to be very drunk. I just found the same information Minnemooseus found. Was this the video you saw? It's not on YouTube anymore, they've removed it for violating their rules, so I can only provide this FakeBook link (evidently the rules are more lax there):
Here's a video report about slowed videos:
--Percy
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
No, it was live. I watched it on CNN International.
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JonF Member (Idle past 196 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Even Fox knows.
Manipulated videos of Nancy Pelosi edited to falsely depict her as drunk spread on social media | Fox News
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yes we all know that video was manipulated, and unfortunately it mostly serves to hide the fact that Pelosi started the whole kerfuffle by blatantly misrepresenting Trump as engaged in a "cover-up" which is what prompted him to end the meeting -- without any rancor or the temper tantrums we got from the Fake News people, as he says at that same link. She then followed it up by suggesting he's lost his mind and needs an intervention. He and we are supposed to take this stuff without reacting but Trump never does that, he always has a comeback. It's his M.O. whatever one might think of it, it's an answer to the neverending Fake News and insults from the Izquierdo*
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
From Message 2874 on the Trump Bashing Thread: It's also the Common People Bashing thread, meaning all us Deplorables, some sixty three million of us. According to Mencken and the rest of the Izquierdo on that thread all of us who voted for Trump are basically just trash to the glorious elites who despise him. Before they send us to the concentration camps I wonder if we could strike a deal to split the country so we could have a chunk of it to ourselves. We'd be happy without them and they without us.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: It's also the Common People Bashing thread, meaning all us Deplorables, some sixty three million of us. According to Mencken and the rest of the Izquierdo on that thread all of us who voted for Trump are basically just trash to the glorious elites who despise him. No one has suggested those who support il Donald are trash. They are deplorable and deluded and totally divorced from reality and worthy of pity.
Faith writes: Before they send us to the concentration camps I wonder if we could strike a deal to split the country so we could have a chunk of it to ourselves. No one has suggested that the Trump supporters should be sent to the concentration camps, only that they should be ignored.
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