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Chiroptera
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Message 2131 of 5796 (853411)
05-27-2019 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 2130 by jar
05-27-2019 11:31 AM


No one has suggested that the Trump supporters should be sent to the concentration camps....
In fact, no one is even suggesting that Trump supporters be prevented from voting.
Only one side is passing laws that decrease voter participation, and one side more heavily engages in partisan gerrymanding, and it's not Trump's opponents.

If this was a witch hunt, it found a lot of witches. -- David Cole, writing about the Mueller investigation.

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Message 2132 of 5796 (853415)
05-27-2019 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 2131 by Chiroptera
05-27-2019 11:36 AM


Oh you mean not wanting illegals, noncitizens, to have the great privilege of voting in our elections? Imagine opposing that, how uncompassionate of us. Let's invite the entire Arab/Muslim world to vote in our elections while we're at it. And all the Chinese too. Oh and we also don't think felons should vote? Gosh we're mean.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Chiroptera
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Message 2133 of 5796 (853416)
05-27-2019 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 2129 by Faith
05-27-2019 11:24 AM


...I wonder if we could strike a deal to split the country so we could have a chunk of it to ourselves.
Just like in 1861, you don't get to secede just because you lose an election.
Hell, just like in 1861, you certainly don't get to secede just because you don't like what people are saying about you.

If this was a witch hunt, it found a lot of witches. -- David Cole, writing about the Mueller investigation.

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ringo
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Message 2134 of 5796 (853420)
05-27-2019 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 2129 by Faith
05-27-2019 11:24 AM


Faith writes:
It's also the Common People Bashing thread, meaning all us Deplorables....
You Deplorables are not the Common People any more than the loud-mouths of the eighties were the Silent Majority. You Deplorables are a small subset of the Common People. Don't insult us by including us in your deplorable views.

Izquierdo.

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ringo
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Message 2135 of 5796 (853424)
05-27-2019 12:10 PM
Reply to: Message 2132 by Faith
05-27-2019 11:48 AM


Faith writes:
Oh you mean not wanting illegals, noncitizens, to have the great privilege of voting in our elections? Imagine opposing that, how uncompassionate of us.
You (and we) should let all taxpayers vote. Remember "No taxation without representation"?
Faith writes:
Gosh we're mean.
And hypocritical.

Izquierdo.

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JonF
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Message 2136 of 5796 (853425)
05-27-2019 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 2132 by Faith
05-27-2019 11:48 AM


No, that's not what anyone means. He's referring to blatant gerrymandering to ensure Republicans get more representation than Democrats no matter how many more votes the Democrats get. And the laws "addressing" the nonexistent in-person voter fraud that just happen to make it more difficult for left-leaning citizens to vote.
Got any evidence of a noticeable amount of in-person voter frauds ? No? Didn't think so. Most of the small amount of voter fraud is with absentee ballots,such as in North Carolina district 9 in 2018. Massive fraud. By Republicans.
Nobody is proposing that non-citizens vote in state or Federal elections. Got any evidence for your claim? Not for that one either?
Gosh, what a surprise.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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PaulK
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Message 2137 of 5796 (853426)
05-27-2019 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 2132 by Faith
05-27-2019 11:48 AM


quote:
Oh you mean not wanting illegals, noncitizens, to have the great privilege of voting in our elections?
Do you mean to suggest that Black people are “illegals, noncitizens” ? Because they’ve been the targets of Republican voter suppression tactics.

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JonF
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Message 2138 of 5796 (853432)
05-27-2019 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 2137 by PaulK
05-27-2019 12:12 PM


And Hispanics and courtllege students and...

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Theodoric
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Message 2139 of 5796 (853450)
05-27-2019 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 2132 by Faith
05-27-2019 11:48 AM


You know that isn't what GOP voter suppression is doing. You are still a racist.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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JonF
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Message 2140 of 5796 (853453)
05-27-2019 5:10 PM
Reply to: Message 2139 by Theodoric
05-27-2019 4:09 PM


I think she doesn't know. She thinks liberals are liter spawn of Satan trying to destroy all that is good. She eagerly and unthinkingly swallows every right-wing hallucination there is.

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Theodoric
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Message 2141 of 5796 (853454)
05-27-2019 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 2140 by JonF
05-27-2019 5:10 PM


Faith is a troll and a racist. She knows the actual facts but doesn't care because her religious hate is more important.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Faith 
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Message 2142 of 5796 (853458)
05-27-2019 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 2137 by PaulK
05-27-2019 12:12 PM


The only voter manipulation tactics I'm aware of are the work of the Izquierdo. American blacks are citizens, illegals are not.

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Faith 
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Message 2143 of 5796 (853459)
05-27-2019 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 2141 by Theodoric
05-27-2019 5:44 PM


This post is worthy of a long suspension for personal attack.
To a nonracist nontroll such as I am this is akin to being stabbed in the heart, I mean I literally feel it in my heart to be talked about in such a way. The Izquierdo has no integrity whatever, they will make up anything to destroy their opposition.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Chiroptera
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Message 2144 of 5796 (853464)
05-27-2019 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 2132 by Faith
05-27-2019 11:48 AM


I was in the middle of responding to this when a friend came by to pick me up for a trip into the city, so I bailed. I see in the meantime that people have already made some of the points I would have made, so I'll just add this:
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Oh and we also don't think felons should vote?
Me, I think that when a person has completed their sentence, all their civil and political rights should be restored. In fact, I think people should be allowed to vote even when they are still serving time in prison. I believe Maine and Vermont allow felons to vote even while incarcerated, as do several of the Western European democracies.
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...noncitizens....
Come to think of it, I also think all legal residents should be allowed to vote. Anyone who pays taxes and has to obey the laws should have a say in what those laws are.
That's just me, though. I can see how someone might disagree.

If this was a witch hunt, it found a lot of witches. -- David Cole, writing about the Mueller investigation.

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JonF
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Message 2145 of 5796 (853465)
05-27-2019 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 2142 by Faith
05-27-2019 6:46 PM


You didn't hear about NC 9? The biggest voter fraud in 2018 and maybe the 21st century? Perpetrated by Republicans?
Maybe the sources you trust don't want you to know. Understanding the election scandal in North Carolina’s 9th district:
quote:
The story has a lot of moving parts, but here are the basics: the 2018 general election in North Carolina’s 9th district was a contest between Democrat Dan McCready and Republican Mark Harris; Harris had defeated the incumbent GOP holder of the seat, Robert Pittenger, in the primary. While Harris leads in the vote count by 905 votes, the North Carolina State Board of Elections has twice refused to certify the results of the race because of potential irregularities involving mail-in ballots. The allegations fall into several categories. Some voters claim that individuals came to their homes and collected their unsealed absentee ballots. Others allege that they received absentee ballots that they never requested. In addition, multiple individuals have come forward to claim that they were paid by a Republican political operative, Leslie McCrae Dowless, to collect absentee ballots from voters; under North Carolina law, it is, with limited exceptions, illegal to collect and return someone else’s absentee ballot. (For more on the ins-and-outs of the controversy, I’d recommend some great reporting from local journalists on the episode.)
Turned out all those allegations were true. Eventually they decided to do a complete new election, including primaries because the Republicans had committed similar fraud in the primary. The primaries are over, the new election is in the future.

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