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Faith 
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Message 271 of 438 (853482)
05-27-2019 9:31 PM
Reply to: Message 257 by Tanypteryx
05-27-2019 2:04 PM


Re: All praise Her Noodliness
The Bible speaks of actual real places, so therefore you conclude:
So Ireland isn't an actual place?
as if he'd said the Bible speaks of ALL actual real places, and you think that's an intelligent remark? It's unbelievably stoopid and as so many such comments are here, time-wasting.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 272 of 438 (853486)
05-27-2019 10:15 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by Faith
05-27-2019 9:31 PM


Re: All praise Her Noodliness

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 273 of 438 (853487)
05-27-2019 10:19 PM
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05-27-2019 9:31 PM


Re: All praise Her Noodliness
It's unbelievably stoopid and as so many such comments are here, time-wasting.
Says the spreader of untreated sewage.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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AZPaul3
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Message 274 of 438 (853488)
05-27-2019 10:21 PM
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05-27-2019 10:15 PM


Re: All praise Her Noodliness
you think that's an intelligent remark? It's unbelievably stoopid and as so many such comments are here, time-wasting.
She sure told you! So there!

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 275 of 438 (853489)
05-27-2019 10:23 PM
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05-27-2019 10:21 PM


Re: All praise Her Noodliness
At least she made me laugh.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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ringo
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Message 276 of 438 (853511)
05-28-2019 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 267 by Faith
05-27-2019 6:37 PM


Re: God is all powerful and outside time and space
Faith writes:
... this is demonstrated by Peter's explanation of how messages from God were given "in old time" -- through the Holy Spirit.
There you go again, using the book to support itself.

Izquierdo.

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Message 277 of 438 (853513)
05-28-2019 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 276 by ringo
05-28-2019 11:39 AM


Re: God is all powerful and outside time and space
She is using the ideas in the book to support the contention that the book makes sense. I could state such a case better if I had more time, but im running around this morning. I always have time for coffee at the library in Saskatchewan, however. Be there in a few (and I'll bring spare change for the crew! )
Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

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Message 278 of 438 (853516)
05-28-2019 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 277 by Phat
05-28-2019 11:43 AM


Re: God is all powerful and outside time and space
She is using the ideas in the book to support the contention that the book makes sense.
We could make the same argument for Treasure Island or Harry Potter. Unless you have independent corroborating evidence you have no evidence. A thing can not be used to corroborate itself.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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ringo
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Message 279 of 438 (853517)
05-28-2019 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 277 by Phat
05-28-2019 11:43 AM


Re: God is all powerful and outside time and space
Phat writes:
She is using the ideas in the book to support the contention that the book makes sense.
That's what I said.
It's like saying, "This sentence is proof of Bigfoot."

Izquierdo.

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foreveryoung
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Message 280 of 438 (853521)
05-28-2019 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 257 by Tanypteryx
05-27-2019 2:04 PM


Re: All praise Her Noodliness
So books about leprechauns refer to Ireland?? I'm assuming your point is that since it references an actual place it must be just as valid as the bible. The books on leprechauns were written to Irish people. It's part of their folklore. Its assumed the audience is from a real location. You cannot stretch the analogy further than that.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 281 of 438 (853525)
05-28-2019 2:43 PM
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05-28-2019 1:40 PM


Re: All praise Her Noodliness
Leprechauns are Irish. It was sarcasm to try and make you think about the absurdity of trying to use "actual places" in the bible as corroborating evidence for the bible, but it went right over your head.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Faith 
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Message 282 of 438 (853537)
05-28-2019 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 281 by Tanypteryx
05-28-2019 2:43 PM


Re: All praise Her Noodliness
Yeah it went over my head too. The leprechaun llne is just too silly. But the Bible is full of history and geography and that does give it authenticity whether you llke it or not which of course you don't because llke most others here you have to destroy Christianity. Which will destroy western civilization too, but that's OK as well I guess.

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ringo
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Message 283 of 438 (853539)
05-28-2019 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 282 by Faith
05-28-2019 3:42 PM


Re: All praise Her Noodliness
Faith writes:
... llke most others here you have to destroy Christianity.
I, for one, don't want to destroy Christianity. Almost everybody I know is a Christian - or at leat a professing one like you. I just want to take the Bible for what it is, not the fantasy that you try to peddle.

Izquierdo.

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Message 284 of 438 (853540)
05-28-2019 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 282 by Faith
05-28-2019 3:42 PM


Re: All praise Her Noodliness
Faith writes:
But the Bible is full of history and geography and that does give it authenticity whether you llke it or not which of course you don't because llke most others here you have to destroy Christianity
Now that's both utterly silly and of course also utterly false. The Bible is full of fables and fictions and very very little history.
There's no evidence of the Exodus or Conquest of Canaan or Jesus or the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah or just about every so called historical event in the Bible. About the only actual history in the Bible might be the destruction of the Temple.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 285 of 438 (853541)
05-28-2019 4:02 PM
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05-28-2019 3:42 PM


Re: All praise Her Noodliness
The bible is fiction, as imaginary as Santa Claus. Grow up.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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