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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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At this time I am firmly in the Warren camp. She aligns well with my views and she is very accomplished and has solid policy plans.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Chiroptera Inactive Member
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I just donated a small amount of money to her campaign. First time I've ever donated money to a candidate's campaign.
If this was a witch hunt, it found a lot of witches. -- David Cole, writing about the Mueller investigation.
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Admin Director Posts: 13038 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.1
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Any objection to renaming this thread, "The Campaign for the Democratic Presidential Nomination"?
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Diomedes Member Posts: 996 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: |
That sounds like a good idea. Makes sense to me.
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Taq Member Posts: 10081 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
ramoss writes: I like Bernies ideas, but he's just too old, and too much of a one issue candidate. Biden just does not enthuse me either. I would like to see someone who hasn't reached their 70th birthday by the time they get sworn in.' My thoughts exactly. It would be nice to see someone around the ages of Bill Clinton and Obama who can exude some youthful exuberance and connect with people of different age groups. On top of that, anyone in their 60's who has been in politics is probably going to have something sexist, mysogynistic, racist, or anachronistic in their past which can be dug up and paraded about. Biden's actions during the Anita Hill hearings is already troublesome. As Obama demonstrated (and Trump), the less political history you have the better. Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4444 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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I agree with everything you say here.
On top of that, anyone in their 60's who has been in politics is probably going to have something sexist, mysogynistic, racist, or anachronistic in their past which can be dug up and paraded about. I think in situations where this does come up the candidate's only response should be replaying "Access Holywood tape" and a list of the women who accused Trump, and no other discussion.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
In regards to both Biden and Sanders, I'm mostly worried about women and minorities having to put up with yet another old white man telling them what's good for them.
Neither candidate strikes me as someone who'd listen as someone tries to tell them what they don't want to hear.If this was a witch hunt, it found a lot of witches. -- David Cole, writing about the Mueller investigation.
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Taq Member Posts: 10081 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Tanypteryx writes: I think in situations where this does come up the candidate's only response should be replaying "Access Holywood tape" and a list of the women who accused Trump, and no other discussion. The difference is that people who are going to vote for Trump don't care about those things. The real danger is dispassionate Democratic voters who don't show up to the polls. Hillary, for whatever reason, failed to get people to the polls because they weren't that excited to vote for her.
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Taq Member Posts: 10081 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Chiroptera writes: In regards to both Biden and Sanders, I'm mostly worried about women and minorities having to put up with yet another old white man telling them what's good for them. Years ago I worked a retail job part time. I was busy with some other tasks and failed to help out some customers to the extent they were expecting. They complained to my boss, and I then explained how I really did help them. He patiently explained to me that "perception is reality" when it comes to interacting with the public, and I have remembered that lesson ever since. This is the problem that Biden and Sanders are going to run up against. They can say and even believe all the right things, but perception is reality. Sometimes it's not what you say, but who says it. Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
WHAT WOMEN have "accused" Trump of anything? That's a lle!
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Taq Member Posts: 10081 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Faith writes: WHAT WOMEN have "accused" Trump of anything? 16 women have accused Trump of inappropriate behavior to sexual assault. Whether these claims are true is another question, but there have been accusations. One example (the link has the other 15):
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4444 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Faith writes: WHAT WOMEN have "accused" Trump of anything? That's a lle! Trump's sexual assault allegations: The full list of women who have accused the President quote: The 23 women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct Donald Trump is one of263 celebrities, politicians, CEOs, and others who have been accused of sexual misconduct since April 2017 Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegationsWhat if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Prove it.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4444 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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You asked what women and I answered. If that's not good enough, go piss up a rope.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8558 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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I don’t know who I will end up supporting come November 2020.
Right now I feel more affection for Pocahontas and Beto than the rest but all that can change. I will put time in for Sen Warren’s local campaign. If she becomes non-viable I will switch to my then favorite, whoever that be. In the end I will actively enthusiastically work for whoever is the Democrat nominee. I have my druthers but if that isn’t to be then so be whatever. No matter who you support early please remember that at the end of the process the overriding goal of this next election is to get that narcissistic idiot out of the Oval Office. It really doesn't matter which democrat you support. Pick one and go to work for them even if only 2-3 nights a month. There will only be two choices. Don't dilute the strength of our opposition to Trump by going all googly eyes over some third party. We cannot allow the Trumpettes to slide to victory again.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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