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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
That's a pretty left-handed way of "not commenting". (I won't even venture to comment on the reversals and duplicity that attend the other discussions going on here today, but this is one day when everything here is so sickeningly upside down, with lles, llbel, illogic, partisan slime throwing called reasoning and worse it's hard to believe.)Izquierdo.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
I’m sure that she’s proud of it.
I also note that in this discussion Faith is unwilling to discuss the issue of contraception as a way of preventing abortion or the issue of exceptions for rape victims.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8561 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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but this is one day when everything here is so sickeningly upside down, with lles, llbel, illogic, partisan slime throwing called reasoning and worse it's hard to believe No, Just a different tack on a relative morality. You put a high value on the human life. This is good. This is as it should be. But there are still some matters that are of greater value than a human life. Keeping the evil intentions of religion away from control over my body is one of them. If you can order a unwilling woman to have a baby against her will then you will feel free to justify other intrusions. More encroachments. All gays must wear a big pink "P" branded into their foreheads. We have seen throughout history what a state can do to enslave the mind and the body. Wars have been fought over this issue. And the only way to oppose those encroachments is to oppose every attempt the religiously-inspired state makes to control your body.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If you mean to be using "liberty" in the sense used by the American founders you are abusing the word. They certainly never meant to establish liberty from Nature or liberty from responsibility. The word as you are using it is a travesty. There is no liberty to kill a human being.
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Taq Member Posts: 10084 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Faith writes: If you mean to be using "liberty" in the sense used by the American founders you are abusing the word. Many of the founding fathers owned slaves, so their opinions on liberty is quite suspect. Also, the founding fathers thought it best for each generation to govern themselves the way they see fit instead of rigidly following dogma laid down by them.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
If you mean to be using "liberty" in the sense used by the American founders you are abusing the word.
and their view of liberty didn't include granting it to slaves, so fuck them.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Trashing the founding fathers is just more typical Llftist arrogance. I'm sure you aren't any paragon of moral judgment yourself and you may not even have the excuse of being born in a cultural context that encourages your moral failures. Actually, supporting abortion makes you anything BUT a moral paragon, and I hope THAT mentality is condemned in a few generations too. but the Founders were great men and today's mental midgets dissing them is disgusting. AND they were all uncomfortable with slavery rather than justifying it. Ugh what a bunch of Llftist Pharisees hang out here. Finding fault with everybody but themselves.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
But it DID include granting it to slaves in the end. Gosh you must think you are better than Jefferson or Washington? What a bunch of self righteous knowitalls you lftists are. Even while advocating killing babies. Yuck.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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in the end = after a civil war
Gosh you must think you are better than Jefferson or Washington
I've never owned slaves so I think I'm ahead of them in a category or two. Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You aren't ahead of them in any sense whatever. You're just an arrogant jrk.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
No, I'm pretty sure Dr. Jones* owns no slaves.
If this was a witch hunt, it found a lot of witches. -- David Cole, writing about the Mueller investigation.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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You're just an arrogant jrk.
perhaps, but I've never owned slaves.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8561 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Which means you want to order an unwilling woman to carry an unwanted fetus to term?
And frankly I really don't give a flyin' flip what the founding fathers may think. They're all dead and this society has changed. So has our morality. I'm not surprised you cannot see bodily integrity as a primary birthright of all human's. The morality has shifted from your medieval religious tripe to the reality of the human condition in our modern global society. And in the balance the choice of the woman wins, not the dictates of your church. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
God help us!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
My "religious tripe" hasn't even been mentioned, and nothing from my church. I did think that all sane societies had laws against murder which hadn't been transcended anywhere.
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