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Topic: Some states protect women's rights
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 7 of 286 (853096)
05-22-2019 11:31 AM
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Reply to: Message 5 by Faith
05-22-2019 9:55 AM
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Would you kill a toddler because it isn't yet an adult?
Really? Really? That is your argument. You know as well as anyone else that the two things are not analogous. If you do not have any real arguments then quit wasting our time.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 54 of 286 (853484)
05-27-2019 9:49 PM
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Reply to: Message 53 by Faith
05-27-2019 9:37 PM
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Re: Is the fetus a human being? Is it a living creature that we allow you to kill?
On her way out the door Faith told another easily refuted untruth.
Until very recently abortion wasn't even possible anyway. quote:
The practice of abortion”the termination of a pregnancy”has been known since ancient times.
History of abortion - Wikipedia
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 57 of 286 (853510)
05-28-2019 11:34 AM
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Reply to: Message 56 by Faith
05-28-2019 3:53 AM
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Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
That and the health and life of the mother are the reason for all late term abortions.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 62 of 286 (853542)
05-28-2019 4:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 60 by Faith
05-28-2019 3:34 PM
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Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
A late term abortion is one performed between 21 and 24 weeks. Those are prior to viability. Aproximately 1% of abortions happen between 21 and 24 weeks. 24 weeks is point of viability, but survival rate is only about 50%. Please provide examples of post 24 week abortions.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 65 of 286 (853548)
05-28-2019 5:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 64 by PaulK
05-28-2019 4:50 PM
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Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
Gee Faith wouldn't cherry pick in order to make her argument actually seem plausible would she? Yeah as always.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
Do you have evidence of a 39 week child be aborted? Doesn't happen. Never happens. That would be a full term baby.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 107 of 286 (853734)
05-31-2019 10:50 AM
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Reply to: Message 100 by Faith
05-30-2019 6:32 PM
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Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
skip it Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 112 of 286 (853802)
05-31-2019 5:58 PM
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Reply to: Message 111 by Faith
05-31-2019 5:02 PM
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Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
Abortion, or really, infanticide, leaving a newborn out exposed to the elements to die a painful death, was a common practice in all the pagan cultures Christianity eventually supplanted in the West
Evidence please.
It was Christians who rescued the babies put out to die, also rescued elderly and sick people neglected and abandoned to death, started orphanages and hospitals and took people in where necessary.
irrelevant, unless you can show that Christians did this before they became the dominant culture in Europe.
So what you are advocating is really a return to Pre-Christian paganism, while it was Christianity that civilized the West.
Actually Christianity drove Europe into what is commonly known as the dark ages.
Civilization doesn't appeal to those on the Izquierdo/ or other side of the Right when it comes down to it.
You are a vile person. Your hate is so over the top. Go screw yourself. Edited by Theodoric, : Fix db code
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 116 of 286 (853820)
06-01-2019 8:33 AM
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Reply to: Message 114 by Faith
05-31-2019 10:56 PM
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Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
Your religion is immoral. Protestants are well known for torturing and killing people. Not just the Roman Catholics. I venture to guess you would be ok with the torture and murder if people that you feel disrespect your god. What do you think the penalty should be if I went around and said Jesus was a pedophile and your god could go screw himself? Do you think there should be a penalty for that? Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 136 of 286 (853956)
06-03-2019 9:05 AM
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Reply to: Message 111 by Faith
05-31-2019 5:02 PM
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Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
Since no reply to my questions you obviously have no evidence to back the assertions you made in this post. As I assumed. This post is not for you, but to make sure the lurkers are aware that you make many claims that are not backed up by any evidence or facts, whatsoever. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Partial birth abortion is not an accurate term
THat is not a medical term it is a political term. The purpose of the term is to enflame and incite It was first used by a forced birther organization NRLC in 1995.
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And contrary to the claims of some abortion opponents, most such abortions do not take place in the third trimester of pregnancy, or after fetal "viability."
To show how vile forced birthers are.
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Indeed, many abortion opponents believe even severely deformed fetuses should be delivered regardless of their prospects for a healthy life.
"We don't believe that sick babies ” babies with disabilities ” should be pulled out by the legs and struck through the head," Right to Life's Johnson told The New Republic. "We believe they should live out their life ” whether it's a few minutes or six hours."
The whole issue of partial-birth abortion is an manufactured canard. Intact D&E is in fact safer for the pregnant woman, but who cares about her. If you want to bring up and vilify intact D&E, then learn about it and understand it, don't throw out a charged, loaded term and think you have won the debate, because you have not. All you have done is expose your ignorance. 'Partial-Birth Abortion': Separating Fact From Spin : NPR
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 139 of 286 (853959)
06-03-2019 9:22 AM
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Reply to: Message 125 by AZPaul3
06-02-2019 12:33 PM
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39 week abortion lie
No one on the forced birther side can come up with a realistic 39 week abortion. Still waiting. It is all lies and smoke and mirrors. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 140 of 286 (853960)
06-03-2019 9:24 AM
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Reply to: Message 126 by AZPaul3
06-02-2019 1:05 PM
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Re: Is the fetus a human being? Is it a living creature that we allow you to kill?
Unless you have some other data.
All the pro-birther side has is anecdotes and hypotheticals. They have no real life examples or data to support their attempt to push their moral values on society as a whole.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 141 of 286 (853961)
06-03-2019 9:26 AM
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Reply to: Message 132 by Faith
06-02-2019 3:18 PM
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Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
Stop saying dumb things.
Troll. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 143 of 286 (853963)
06-03-2019 9:30 AM
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Reply to: Message 137 by Faith
06-03-2019 9:15 AM
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Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
You are breaking a forum rule. Again. Just because you thought you heard something does not mean that it is factual. Since you can not support your argument with evidence you should rescind it.
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4. Points should be supported with evidence and reasoned argumentation. Address rebuttals through the introduction of additional evidence or by enlarging upon the argument. Do not repeat previous points without further elaboration. Avoid bare assertions.
EvC Forum: Rules Do you think you have a different set of rules than the rest of us.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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