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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 596 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
I quite agree that the legal question is a different question.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 596 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
But there, you see, when you say that a termination in the ninth month is for serious health reasons, you're conceding that it's a different situation from a termination at, say, seven weeks.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 596 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
When you say it's not a reality do you mean it doesn't happen, or that it shouldn't be permitted?
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 596 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
Whether or not you characterize it as a "political term" you still know what it refers to, don't you?
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 596 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
If someone refers to "partial birth abortion" do you know what they are referring to?
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 596 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
So the dividing line is at birth?
Or is the dividing line earlier? That is, do you think there should be more restrictions on later-gestation than on early-gestation abortions?
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 596 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
Is it a "straw man" in that it never happens, or that you're not saying restrictions on it happening shouldn't be on the books?
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 596 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
Oh indeed! For example, if I were to use the term "unicorn" you would be within your rights to say that such a thing doesn't exist.
Now, if I were to use the term partial-birth abortion would you be within your rights to say such a thing never happens?
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 596 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
Does that mean you think it would be OK to put restrictions on 39-week abortions? How about abortions after viability where no danger to the woman or fetus is present?
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 596 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
So you're discussing a topic without knowing what . . . ?
OK, here's a quote from 'Partial-Birth Abortion': Separating Fact From Spin : NPR Where does the term "partial-birth" abortion come from? The term was first coined by the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC) in 1995 to describe a recently introduced medical procedure to remove fetuses from the womb. Alternately known as "dilation and extraction," or D&X, and "intact D&E," it involves removing the fetus intact by dilating a pregnant woman's cervix, then pulling the entire body out through the birth canal.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 596 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
But doesn't this mean an abortion of a 1-week gestation fetus is no different from the abortion of a 39-week gestation fetus?
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 596 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
Here's a quote from 'Partial-Birth Abortion': Separating Fact From Spin : NPR
Where does the term "partial-birth" abortion come from? The term was first coined by the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC) in 1995 to describe a recently introduced medical procedure to remove fetuses from the womb. Alternately known as "dilation and extraction," or D&X, and "intact D&E," it involves removing the fetus intact by dilating a pregnant woman's cervix, then pulling the entire body out through the birth canal.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 596 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
The link from an NPR story has the information. Here's a snippet:
"Two abortion physicians, one in Ohio and one in California, independently developed variations on the method by extracting the fetus intact. The Ohio physician, Martin Haskell, called his method "dilation and extraction," or D&X. It involved dilating the woman's cervix, then pulling the fetus through it feet first until only the head remained inside. Using scissors or another sharp instrument, the head was then punctured, and the skull compressed, so it, too, could fit through the dilated cervix. Haskell has said that he devised his D&X procedure because he wanted to find a way to perform second-trimester abortions without an overnight hospital stay, because local hospitals did not permit most abortions after 18 weeks."
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 596 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
But we have all kinds of laws regulating medical practice.
To say such laws are "dictating" is an abuse of language.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 596 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
But not entirely bodily integrity issues. Absolutes are tricky.
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