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Sarah Bellum
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Message 6 of 953 (854074)
06-04-2019 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by PaulK
05-30-2019 2:38 PM


So now opposing open borders is racist?

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Message 8 of 953 (854079)
06-04-2019 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by LamarkNewAge
06-01-2019 12:27 AM


Re: Take away political preferences, and many (on both sides) are indeed racist.
There's a difference between racism and immigration barriers.
There are plenty of open borders types in rich liberal enclaves who favor restrictive zoning to keep people of color out of their neighborhoods (except to clean their pools and diaper their babies!)
The New Republic

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Message 9 of 953 (854081)
06-04-2019 4:20 PM
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06-04-2019 4:15 PM


The "sanctuary city" people sound quite borderless.

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Message 15 of 953 (854089)
06-04-2019 4:33 PM
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06-04-2019 4:27 PM


All of that is quite true. Nevertheless, they do seem a bit lax in their attitudes towards the lines on the map, no?

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Message 19 of 953 (854100)
06-04-2019 5:19 PM
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06-04-2019 5:04 PM


I suppose you're right. It seems logical, doesn't it, that people who oppose immigration rules in one area might turn around and say they should work in another?

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Message 22 of 953 (854103)
06-04-2019 5:25 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Taq
06-04-2019 5:20 PM


Culture can be good and culture can be bad. Just read the news about the Middle East sometime.

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Message 24 of 953 (854105)
06-04-2019 5:26 PM
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06-04-2019 5:19 PM


I suppose you're right. It seems logical, doesn't it, that people who oppose immigration rules in one area might turn around and say they should work in another?

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Message 27 of 953 (854109)
06-04-2019 5:33 PM
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06-04-2019 5:29 PM


You brought up culture, not me.

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Message 206 of 953 (856501)
07-01-2019 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Taq
06-04-2019 4:25 PM


On the other hand, "changing demographic" might be a good description of what happened to the Navajo!

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Message 207 of 953 (856503)
07-01-2019 12:08 PM
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06-04-2019 4:24 PM


Re: Take away political preferences, and many (on both sides) are indeed racist.
It shows their gates close at the borders of their gated communities (except for nannies and pool-cleaners, etc.) not at the borders of their country.

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Message 208 of 953 (856504)
07-01-2019 12:10 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by PaulK
06-04-2019 4:29 PM


On the other hand, the change in "mix" wasn't so good for the Iroquois, was it?

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Message 209 of 953 (856507)
07-01-2019 12:15 PM
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06-04-2019 5:38 PM


So there you go! Some cultures can be respected, some practice certain practices that must not be respected.

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Message 210 of 953 (856508)
07-01-2019 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Theodoric
06-04-2019 9:44 PM


If you think I've made a false statement, you're free to present your evidence for your thinking.

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Message 212 of 953 (856625)
07-01-2019 10:27 PM
Reply to: Message 211 by PaulK
07-01-2019 1:46 PM


Humans have lived in the americas for only a blink of an eye compared to elsewhere on the globe. Even the "native americans" came here only a few thousand years ago. We are a land of immigrants and have been for the past ten thousand years. Successive waves of immigration have changed the entire western hemisphere. What we (the Iroquois and everyone else) have learned from these waves is that it is important to let in people like Enrico Fermi and not Carlo Ponzi, Carl Schurz and not Johann Breyer, Anthony Quinn and not Carlos Zuniga-Aviles, Antonio de Montesinos and not Francisco Pizarro.

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Message 214 of 953 (856630)
07-01-2019 10:51 PM
Reply to: Message 213 by AZPaul3
07-01-2019 10:45 PM


That is, of course a much different issue!
Perhaps the procedures of your famous Ellis Island might be resurrected?

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