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Atheism - who knew?

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ringo
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Message 7 of 27 (854178)
06-05-2019 12:17 PM 		Reply to: Message 4 by Phat
06-05-2019 2:06 AM

Re: Hypochristians?
Phat writes:

I need to rethink my mental aberrations.


Believing the voices in your head would be called a mental aberration in any other context, wouldn't it?
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Message 9 of 27 (854184)
06-05-2019 12:52 PM 		Reply to: Message 8 by Phat
06-05-2019 12:46 PM

Re: Hypochristians?
Phat writes:

Plus...as for you, the fact that you question whether faith and belief have any business in science shows which altar you have groveled at the whole time.


That's exactly the problem. You only accept the opinions of sycophants who agree with you. And you mock those of us who might possibly be more objective.
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06-05-2019 1:20 PM 		Reply to: Message 12 by Phat
06-05-2019 1:10 PM

Re: Hypochristians?
Phat writes:

No, I don't.


Yes, you do:
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Plus...as for you, the fact that you question whether faith and belief have any business in science shows which altar you have groveled at the whole time.
You don't think "grovelling at the altar" is mockery?

Phat writes:

I listen to your arguments, don't I?


I wonder if you do. You keep coming back with the same old same old nonsensical claims like, "People choose Hell."

Phat writes:

Most Christians wouldn't bother.


And shame on them. Is that any way to stand up for Jesus?
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06-06-2019 11:47 AM 		Reply to: Message 15 by Phat
06-06-2019 7:52 AM

Re: Hypochristians?
Phat writes:

And you know that this is nonsensical because...?


Because nobody would choose Hell. I've told you that a dozen times.

Phat writes:

Granted it is a belief but it makes sense within the belief paradigm.


And that's why we consider the whole belief system nonsense. One bad apple spoils the whole barrel.

Phat writes:

You insist that all of scripture and belief must conform to your paradigm...


Not at all. Where did you get that idea?

Phat writes:

... which is why we never get anywhere.


We never get anywhere because you keep getting the same answers but you conveniently forget them and ask the same nonsensical questions a few days later.

Phat writes:

And if you explain to me why "I am wrong" I submit that you indeed are groveling at that altar.


But why would you do that? Does it make you feel good to insult me?

Phat writes:

You act as if though we invented God rather than the other way around.


We DID.
All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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06-06-2019 11:49 AM 		Reply to: Message 17 by Phat
06-06-2019 8:26 AM

Re: Hypochristians?
Phat writes:

I would protest that such a group, likely composed largely of unbelievers or inclusivists, would itself be unable to appreciate the evidence if it somehow subjectively became known to them.


So anybody who can look at your "evidence" objectively is No True Christian.

Edited by ringo, : No reason given.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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Message 25 of 27 (854278)
06-06-2019 1:24 PM 		Reply to: Message 22 by Phat
06-06-2019 12:56 PM

Re: Hypochristians?
Phat writes:

I am not trying to insult you.


You're as much as saying I'm possessed by demons.

Phat writes:

I am offending that arrogant spirit that runs you around.


See? Stop thinking in terms of spooks.

Phat writes:

it denies Christ


I deny Christ. He never existed. I don't need some figment of your fevered mind to tell me that. I can see the evidence for myself.
All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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