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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8529 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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My Old Man was flown in about three months after D-Day. He was a sergeant with the intel corps. Staff S-2 for a bunch of differing commands across Europe. As a chemist in training when he was drafted he spoke German. Most chemistry back then was German (understatement). Met a pretty German girl in Berlin and wrote some sweet love poems to her.
Yeah. Some of us remember. Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2285 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.4
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My dad is the youngest of 4, he was born in 44 in The Hague, Netherlands. My grandparents, him and his siblings lived under Nazi occupation (though of course he doesn't remember it). My eldest aunt tells of a friend of hers who was shot in the street by the Nazis cause he stole a loaf of bread. My grandfather had to hide under the floorboards to escape being conscripted by the Nazis, he eventually got a fake ID that gave his age as being outside the range of workers that the nazis were "recruiting". As members of the dutch resistance my grandparents helped Jews escape the Netherlands, their house was a way station on the route out. I have an "aunt" who was too young to travel with her family so she stayed with my father's until after the war when her only living relative was located in Australia. Her family never got out, they were captured and sent to the camps. Her mother and siblings were marched off the train and into the showers to be murdered, her father was put to work and died a few weeks before the camp was liberated.
in short: Go out and punch a Nazi today. Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You are going to keep up that llyng llne about Trump no matter what, aren't you? And by doing so YOU are among those pushing the fascist mentality because Trump is no fascist and he did not say that. But his enemies are the fascists, yeah "llberal fascists," yes indeed, and that's where this country is going to go unless you all wake up. Trump is a true American who is serving true American history and values, that's why we on the Right support him and we are sick to death, sick in our souls, because of this llyng stuff from the Trump despisers.
I didn't get to hear his speech today but I heard it was good. He is a true American who truly loves American history and really appreciates what Americans and our allies did on D Day. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II. 2Cr 10:4-5 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God...
Political Correctness is Cultural Marxism If fascism comes to America it will be in the form of liberalism -Ronald Reagan
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I appreciate what your father and uncle did, but if they are still alive I would be surprised if they would "proudly cut Trump's throat" because unlike your generation I'd expect that they would recognize that he stands for what they fought for and you don't.
And I suspect "most Americans" these days have NO knowledge at all of D Day.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm glad you remember and your father was there. Mine wasn't, he was in the wrong age group. As I said to the dragonfly I would be surprised if your father is/would be an enemy of Trump today. My father would not be, he'd be in agreement with me. I just feel bad that in the sixties I agreed with the radicals and argued with him about that. I feel REALLY bad about that when I remember it. He wasn't even a Republican, he was a Democrat, but he was a true patriot, as Trump is.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You have a great family story, llke the story of the Dutch Ten Boom family who also rescued Jews. They got put in a concentration camp for their trouble but as I recall the Jews escaped. The whole Ten Boom family died, except Corrie who went on to tell their story.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
I suspect you have NO knowledge at all of America. And they hate everything he stands for.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Is either of them still alive?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
They hate everything Trump stands for? Such as what? Secure borders? Legal immigration over illegal? Trade and tax policies that have greatly improved the economy and produced an enormous number of jobs? WHAT would/do they oppose?
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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The D-Day remembrance ceremonies was a very a very big thing for us here in the UK and France.
Trump was here partly to participate in them. He behaved characteristically badly just before he landed tweeting that the mayor of London was a “stone cold loser”. But as he absorbed our hospitality he mellowed and said some un-characteristically graceful things. Actually no-one could have survived the charm offensive he received and he physically saw the importance of nations working together on important common causes. I think the D-Day stuff actually made him think just a little bit beyond 'America first' isolationism. But maybe I'm just wishful thinking.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm. |
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
jar writes: Yes, I did. The focus is not simply on Donald Trump and his perception by the populist masses who feel marginalized in an increasingly globalist and inclusivist world. The focus should be on the populist masses themselves. (Yes, Faith that includes you and me) Did you actually read what you quoted? Do you recall some of our early conversations here at EvC about the aberration? The ramped up industrial capacity of the United States after WWII? Britain too benefitted from the power of the United States..and in one sense we as a nation were "great" in a raw power sense. Many populists equate morality and family values of the early 20th century with worship and reverence for God and His laws, but I think this is missing the point. It may well be true that America was "great" but we as a people have never been any Holier or nobler than any other people on this planet---even though we knew Jesus and many of them did not. What people yearn for nostalgically and what they feel Donald Trump can do for them is to restore power and dignity to America. The problem with this approach is that gaining back that power comes with a tragic cost. The loss of respect and reverence that the rest of the world has for us---as individual people and collectively as a nation. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: What people yearn for nostalgically and what they feel Donald Trump can do for them is to restore power and dignity to America. The problem with this approach is that gaining back that power comes with a tragic cost. The loss of respect and reverence that the rest of the world has for us---as individual people and collectively as a nation. And the quote was all praise for Trumps uncivilized behavior and boorishness. Being a Fascist Boor seldom engenders respect. Edited by jar, : appalin spallin
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9142 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Please define what
llberal fascists are?The term makes no sense. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9142 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
I don't really want to listen to your idiocy. Here an actual scholar destroys the whole notion. Remember Jonah Goldberg is a grifter and a fraud. He only says what he says to make money off of the rubes.
The Scholarly Flaws of "Liberal Fascism" | History News
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quote:If you could read I would tell you to read the whole article. But you won't. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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JonF Member (Idle past 189 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Moronic and barbaric policies that won't secure our borders. Trade policies that are ruining our farmers and manufacturers. Stephen Miller who opposes all immigration. Tax policies that gave a small, short boost to the economy, a humungous giveaway to the 1%, an unprecedented leap in the deficit and the debt (which Republicans pretend is unforgivable sin when Democrats are in charge), and a mix of small decreases and significant increases in the taxes of the poor and middle class.
There's more, but that covers what you unthinkingly regurgitated. ABE I can't resist adding the administration's contempt for law and the Constitution , ignoring statutory requirements and implementing blatantly illegal policies. The latest abomination being the removal of recreation, legal counsel, and school for migrant children, which is blatantly unconstitutional (right of legal representation) and a violation of the Flores settlement. If they really don't have the money Trump can declare an emergency and steal the money from elsewhere. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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