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JonF
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Message 2235 of 5796 (853857)
06-01-2019 6:05 PM
Reply to: Message 2234 by Faith
06-01-2019 5:24 PM


Re: Oh golly gosh the same old ignorant seafood thing again.
Yeah, that's the story. No changes to the law except the ones you don't like.
I'm no Biblical scholar, but I don't remember Jesus defining so precisely what parts stayed and what parts went. Can you enlighten me?

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JonF
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Message 2236 of 5796 (853859)
06-01-2019 6:08 PM


So I take it you've abandoned your defense of moronic Mexican tariffs and your contention that hundreds of pages of direct evidence laid out in detail is innuendo.

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JonF
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Message 2244 of 5796 (853899)
06-02-2019 9:36 AM
Reply to: Message 2239 by Faith
06-01-2019 7:02 PM


Re: Oh golly gosh the same old ignorant seafood thing again.
Very convenient, that.

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JonF
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Message 2245 of 5796 (853900)
06-02-2019 9:39 AM
Reply to: Message 2236 by JonF
06-01-2019 6:08 PM


So I take it you've abandoned your defense of moronic Mexican tariffs and your contention that hundreds of pages of direct evidence laid out in detail is innuendo.
As usual, Faith sticks with comforting lies rather than inconvenient truths.
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JonF
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Message 2247 of 5796 (853908)
06-02-2019 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 2246 by PaulK
06-02-2019 12:31 PM


Re: Trump is a shameless liar
The denial tweet (from his campaign's account) included audio of him calling her nasty. And subtitles for the hearing impaired.
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1134809885957414917
They know just how staggeringly stupid their base is.

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JonF
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Message 2280 of 5796 (854335)
06-07-2019 9:24 AM
Reply to: Message 2274 by Faith
06-07-2019 1:35 AM


Re: Today is the anniversary of D Day, does anyone care?
Moronic and barbaric policies that won't secure our borders. Trade policies that are ruining our farmers and manufacturers. Stephen Miller who opposes all immigration. Tax policies that gave a small, short boost to the economy, a humungous giveaway to the 1%, an unprecedented leap in the deficit and the debt (which Republicans pretend is unforgivable sin when Democrats are in charge), and a mix of small decreases and significant increases in the taxes of the poor and middle class.
There's more, but that covers what you unthinkingly regurgitated.
ABE I can't resist adding the administration's contempt for law and the Constitution , ignoring statutory requirements and implementing blatantly illegal policies. The latest abomination being the removal of recreation, legal counsel, and school for migrant children, which is blatantly unconstitutional (right of legal representation) and a violation of the Flores settlement. If they really don't have the money Trump can declare an emergency and steal the money from elsewhere.
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JonF
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Message 2281 of 5796 (854340)
06-07-2019 10:31 AM


Tax cut and GDP
Here's Gross Domestic Product over the last few yrars:
See Tha small increase in growth rate (steepening of the graph) in 2018, followed by a return to the previous rate? That's Trump’s tax cut.
(U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis, Gross Domestic Product [GDP], retrieved from FRED, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis; Gross Domestic Product (GDP) | FRED | St. Louis Fed, June 7, 2019)
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JonF
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Message 2284 of 5796 (854428)
06-08-2019 4:23 PM


Can the right handle winning?
Trump's success in reaching a deal with Mexico and forestalling tarrifs (at least for now) isn't getting much play on the right. Steve M has an explanation.
(Lots more examples of burying at the link).
quote:
The Mexico deal is only the #12 story on the FoxNews.com front page, well below these stories:
And even then, the headline for the Fox story about Mexico is "CNN Panel Has Different Take on Trump’s Mexico Deal."
Trump thinks he can sell this deal as a success, but the right-wing media just can't handle success. The conservative audience is so addicted to rage that front pages have to be incessantly focused on enemies -- Democrats, Muslims, the "liberal media," the "politically correct," and of course the people behind the Russiagate "witch hunt" (see the Lucianne front page).
This may be why Republicans couldn't successfully campaign on the economy in 2018. Polls show that Americans think the economy is good (although many Americans don't feel they're personally benefiting from the apparent prosperity). But Republicans have lost the ability to feel good about good news. Even if they think happy economic days are here again, what good is that to them? Somebody needs to suffer! Even liberals benefit from a good economy!
They can fear their enemies. They can feel contempt for their enemies. They don't seem to have any other emotions anymore.
ON MEXICO, TRUMP SEEMS TO WIN, BUT WINNING DOESN'T FIT THE RIGHT'S BUSINESS MODEL
ABE There are now reports that the deal "consists largely of actions that Mexico had already promised to take in prior discussions with the United States over the past several months." No doubt more to come.
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JonF
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Message 2285 of 5796 (854429)
06-08-2019 4:24 PM


Can the right handle winning?
Dupe.
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JonF
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Message 2290 of 5796 (854440)
06-08-2019 8:48 PM
Reply to: Message 2288 by Faith
06-08-2019 8:14 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
The agreement didn't go in force so much earlier. If it had, and Mexico started cheating so immediately, the obvious tactic is to announce that and use it as leverage against them. Trump would be ecstatic doing that.
So, it seems like a good agreement so far. But the song and dance about tense negotiations and threats of tariffs damaged the economy and pissed off a lot of people, including the Republican moneybags. A very poor tactic.

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JonF
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Message 2304 of 5796 (854498)
06-09-2019 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 2299 by Faith
06-08-2019 10:51 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
The end justifies the means, as Jesus said.

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JonF
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Message 2316 of 5796 (854557)
06-10-2019 1:09 PM
Reply to: Message 2314 by Faith
06-10-2019 1:04 PM


Did he offer any evidence? If so, what? If not, how did you determine it's "most likely"?

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JonF
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Message 2321 of 5796 (854567)
06-10-2019 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 2318 by Faith
06-10-2019 1:26 PM


If it was made months ago it was a win for Kirstjen Nielsen and who did the negotiating. But now she's an un-person.
At least the Times claimed some sources, and you have no reason to believe they made them up. They have no history of such.
You didn't say Limbaugh's speculations are as good as theirs, you said Limaugh's were better why?

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JonF
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Message 2324 of 5796 (854570)
06-10-2019 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 2320 by Tanypteryx
06-10-2019 1:43 PM


Re: What is the actual deal?
Mexico agreed to send 6,000 of their newly formed National Guard to the Guatemalan border. Exactly what actions they may take we don't know.
Mexico will expand holding asylum seekers returned to Mexico after their initial application.
The two countries will hold further talks on a "safe third country" agreement which would force most asylum seekers to seek asylum in Mexico rather than the US.
Trump said that there's a secret "very important part" that will be revealed someday. Trump also tweeted "MEXICO HAS AGREED TO IMMEDIATELY BEGIN BUYING LARGE QUANTITIES OF AGRICULTURAL PRODUCT FROM OUR GREAT PATRIOT FARMERS!", which Mexico denies and which seems pretty weird since the Mexican government doesn't buy our food, private entities do, and the government can't force them to buy more.
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JonF
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Message 2325 of 5796 (854571)
06-10-2019 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 2323 by Faith
06-10-2019 2:14 PM


Your "fake news" mantra doesn't affect reality. They are a big purveyor of true news that you don't like.
Can you list a few NYT articles that were fake and the evidence that they were fake?
Of course you can't.

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