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Theodoric
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Message 2287 of 5796 (854434)
06-08-2019 7:06 PM
Reply to: Message 2286 by Faith
06-08-2019 6:55 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
This was all agreed to months ago. Little donnie did nothing this week except politicize and desecrate the Normandy Invasion ceremonies.
quote:
The deal to avert tariffs that President Trump announced with great fanfare on Friday night consists largely of actions that Mexico had already promised to take in prior discussions with the United States over the past several months, according to officials from both countries who are familiar with the negotiations.
Friday’s joint declaration says Mexico agreed to the “deployment of its National Guard throughout Mexico, giving priority to its southern border.” But the Mexican government had already pledged to do that in March during secret talks in Miami between Kirstjen Nielsen, then the secretary of homeland security, and Olga Sanchez, the Mexican secretary of the interior, the officials said.
The centerpiece of Mr. Trump’s deal was an expansion of a program to allow asylum-seekers to remain in Mexico while their legal cases proceed. But that arrangement was reached in December in a pair of painstakingly negotiated diplomatic notes that the two countries exchanged. Ms. Nielsen announced the Migrant Protection Protocols during a hearing of the House Judiciary Committee five days before Christmas.
Mexico Agreed to Take Border Actions Months Before Trump Announced Tariff Deal - The New York Times
So little donnie lied. Again.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2296 of 5796 (854460)
06-08-2019 10:32 PM
Reply to: Message 2293 by Faith
06-08-2019 9:32 PM


little donnie lies again to make himself feel like a man
The orange nitwit's lies are so easily disprovable.
quote:
“President Donald Trump boasted of “large” agricultural sales to Mexico as part of a deal reached Friday on border security and illegal immigration that averted the threat of U.S. tariffs, but the deal as released had none, and three Mexican officials say they’re not aware of any side accord,” Bloomberg reported. “Increasing Mexico’s purchases from the U.S. wasn’t discussed during the three days of talks in Washington that led up to Friday’s agreement, said the three people with knowledge of the deliberations who weren’t authorized to speak publicly.”
There might not even be a mechanism for such discussions to ever occur.
“Mexico has no state-owned agricultural conglomerate to buy food products or handle distribution, or a government program that could buy farm equipment for delivery to producers,” Bloomberg noted.
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He does not even understand that the lies he tells are not even possible.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2300 of 5796 (854470)
06-08-2019 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 2299 by Faith
06-08-2019 10:51 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
If it took tariffs, fine with me.
The agreements happened before the tariff threats.
Edited by Theodoric, : Time to calm down

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2302 of 5796 (854472)
06-08-2019 10:57 PM
Reply to: Message 2301 by DrJones*
06-08-2019 10:54 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
do you not understand how time works?
One would assume Faith did not know how time worked considering her posts here. But I think it just shows that all she is a troll.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2309 of 5796 (854540)
06-10-2019 8:15 AM
Reply to: Message 2308 by Heathen
06-10-2019 7:42 AM


Re: Tariffs and willful ignorance
Trolls do as trolls do.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2337 of 5796 (854594)
06-10-2019 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 2331 by Faith
06-10-2019 2:51 PM


What are the Rules for Radicals
Do you even know what the Rules for Radicals are?
Go ahead list a couple. There are 13 total.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2342 of 5796 (854603)
06-10-2019 6:16 PM
Reply to: Message 2340 by Faith
06-10-2019 6:07 PM


Re: What are the Rules for Radicals
There is nothing evil in them at all. Unless you have a warped sense of evil.
  1. "Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have."
  2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people."
  3. "Whenever possible go outside the expertise of the enemy."
  4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
  5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon."
  6. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."
  7. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag."
  8. "Keep the pressure on."
  9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."
  10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."
  11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside."
  12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."
  13. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
So tell me which are evil.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2359 of 5796 (854664)
06-11-2019 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 2340 by Faith
06-10-2019 6:07 PM


Re: What are the Rules for Radicals
So nothing? Not willing to point out which ones are evil? I expect nothing less from a troll.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2393 of 5796 (856126)
06-27-2019 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 2392 by Percy
06-27-2019 9:58 AM


Re: Fox News Censorship
I used to comment at Fox News a couple years ago my comments started to disappear. I guess I did not think much about because I have never thought of them as a news organization.
Now that I think about it, this may be something an intrepid reporter might want to look at. Fox claims they are a news org but in reality are a propaganda organ of the GOP. Censorship like this further exposes that fact.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2407 of 5796 (857561)
07-09-2019 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 2403 by Faith
07-08-2019 10:16 PM


Re: Anglagard's wonderfully fair and peaceable reaching out to evangelicals
And most of the policies at the border were practiced under Obama, and Trump merely inherited them. the deaths of children are sad but they arrived slck and the border personnel are overworked, though I doubt any of it is their fault.
All things that are not true that have been addressed and debunked here in the past. Classic Faith. Ignore facts when presented then come back and repeat the untruths at a later date.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2421 of 5796 (857667)
07-10-2019 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 2414 by Hyroglyphx
07-10-2019 1:48 AM


Re: Anglagard's wonderfully fair and peaceable reaching out to evangelicals
Cosby had at least 60 accusers. A court of law found him guilty. Not sure what point you are trying to make.
Bill Cosby's 60 accusers and their reactions to his prison sentence

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Message 2425 of 5796 (857689)
07-10-2019 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 2423 by Hyroglyphx
07-10-2019 12:19 PM


Bill is no liberal figurehead
One thing the right cannot seem to understand is that on the left there are no sacred cows. The Clintons are not worshipped untouchables. If a credible accusation arose against Bill Clinton the left would let the process lead wherever it does. The Clintons are the most investigated couple in history. If there was there there then Ken Starr would have pursued it.
Bill played a price for the Lewinsky affair. Republican investigators found no credible evidence that he committed rape. If they had they would have pursued. I do not know if he did or not, but there was no credible evidence.
Bill Clinton does not represent, speak for or hold some place dear in the heart of the vast majority on the left. He was and is a corporatist Democratic politician. He is an excellent explainer. If he goes down for something he goes down and the progressive left will not bat an eye.
The left is not eating their own. We are holding everyone accountable for their actions.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2431 of 5796 (857718)
07-10-2019 6:15 PM
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07-10-2019 4:42 PM


Re: Bill is no liberal figurehead
Scandals are not grounds for prison. Scandals are not necessarily based on evidence. What do they deserve to go to jail for? I'd love to see your evidence. I am sure federal prosecutors would too. Go ahead present it. Looks like you have Clinton derangement syndrome.
You will find progressives did not defend him during the Lewinsky scandal. Go ahead gives us names of individuals and organizations that openly defended him from perjury. He was impeached but not found guilty by the Senate.
As for the DNC, they are not the progressive or liberal movement. One of the best things us progressives have going for us us that right wing stooges. ike you attack people that do t represent us or our movement at all.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2435 of 5796 (857745)
07-10-2019 10:55 PM
Reply to: Message 2434 by Hyroglyphx
07-10-2019 9:53 PM


Re: Bill is no liberal figurehead
The Democratic Senators that did not vote to convict were not for the most part liberals and progressives. They have nothing to do with the current progressive movement. The Democratic Party of today is not responsible for how people acted 20 years ago.
Here is your original comment.
But if liberal ideology is going to stand up to scrutiny, where it pushes movements like MeToo (carte blanche believe accusers without an investigatory process, and the insinuation that to launch an investigation is part and parcel a sexist agenda) then it has to also deal with the fact that Bill Clinton, a liberal figurehead, is therefore necessarily guilty of every single allegation on that account alone by their own retarded system of beliefs.
You have not provided anything to back this statement. 20 years ago the Democratic Party supported Bill Clinton. That in no way means that the liberal and progressive movement of today support him or would support him. I suppose you think that the GOP is the party of civil rights because of Lincoln too.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2436 of 5796 (857746)
07-10-2019 10:57 PM
Reply to: Message 2433 by Hyroglyphx
07-10-2019 9:39 PM


Re: Bill is no liberal figurehead
You still have not shown how Hillary Clinton was guilty of breaking the law.
You have not addressed a lot of the things that have been brought up.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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