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Theodoric
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Message 144 of 286 (853964)
06-03-2019 9:42 AM
Reply to: Message 142 by Faith
06-03-2019 9:26 AM


Re: Partial birth abortion is not an accurate term
If you would actual read what others link to and what even you link to you would not have to be so embarrassed by your posts.
Let's just use your source Wikipedia. From the second page you link to there is this little nugget.
quote:
The phrase "partial-birth abortion" was first coined by Douglas Johnson of the National Right to Life Committee.
More sourcing.
quote:
It's important to note that "partial-birth abortion" is a political term that has no basis in medicine. In fact, the phrase was made up by the National Right to Life Committee in 1995, according to NPR. The NRLC is, of course, an anti-abortion group, and not a medical authority.
What Is "Partial-Birth" Abortion? It's A Political Term, Not A Medical One
The Partial-Birth Fraud - The American Prospect
I believe that is a check mate.

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Theodoric
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Message 146 of 286 (853968)
06-03-2019 10:07 AM
Reply to: Message 145 by Faith
06-03-2019 9:48 AM


Re: Partial birth abortion is not an accurate term
Doesn't matter what I say about anything, what evidence I do present, it gets trashed here anyway.
You never present evidence. All you do is troll.
How about using the actual medical term. Intact dilation and extraction. There is no birth involved. The fetus is either dead already or has severe health issues. You claim that viable infants were born then killed or left to die. Provide actual evidence.
Are continuing being a troll.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric
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Message 148 of 286 (854018)
06-04-2019 8:41 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by Faith
06-03-2019 9:15 AM


Re: Google page on early Church rescuing babies left to die
No this does not support your contention about pagan cultures. First of all the page you link to provides no source or data to support it's contention that child abandonment was common in medieval times. Maybe it was, but until I see data and facts I have no reason to believe their assertion.
But if it is true it does not help your claim that ritual infanticide was a pagan practice. The first date in this article is 1198. In 1198 the people that lived around the Tiber were not pagans. They were overwhelmingly, if not exclusively, christian.
To add insult to your claim. Who was it that tried to stop this? Pope Innocent III. A damn catholic.
You should actually read your links. That would allow you to understand them, summarize them and not continue to break forum rules.

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Theodoric
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Message 153 of 286 (854094)
06-04-2019 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by Sarah Bellum
06-04-2019 3:26 PM


Re: Partial birth abortion is not an accurate term
But the political term does not exist in reality and medicine. It is a charged term that has no reflection in reality. Do you mean intact dilation and extraction? If so that is the term you should use.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 156 of 286 (854123)
06-04-2019 9:49 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by AZPaul3
06-04-2019 9:26 PM


Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
I have asked repeatedly for evidence of a 39 week abortion. No one seems to be able to provide any.

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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 164 of 286 (854422)
06-08-2019 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 159 by Sarah Bellum
06-08-2019 3:13 PM


Re: Partial birth abortion is not an accurate term
No I do not. That is the problem. Define it for me. It is a legal term that has no basis in reality.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Message 165 of 286 (854423)
06-08-2019 3:39 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by Sarah Bellum
06-08-2019 3:18 PM


Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
Still waiting for someone to show a 39 week abortion happening. Anyone?
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 169 of 286 (854435)
06-08-2019 7:07 PM
Reply to: Message 168 by Faith
06-08-2019 6:59 PM


Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
Please show evidence of a fully formed baby being aborted and left to die. Anecdotes are not evidence.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 171 of 286 (854444)
06-08-2019 9:31 PM
Reply to: Message 170 by Faith
06-08-2019 8:31 PM


Re: Video of partial birth abortion of a fully formed baby
There are medical reasons. We have no idea what the provenance of this video is. Without provenance it is of no evidentiary value.
Term And Partial Birth Abortions: The Mythical Arch-Nemeses Of The Anti-Choice Movement | HuffPost Women
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 173 of 286 (854450)
06-08-2019 9:42 PM
Reply to: Message 172 by Faith
06-08-2019 9:38 PM


Re: Video of partial birth abortion of a fully formed baby
I have no idea what that video is of. I am not going to watch it, because I have no explanation of what it is and where it was filmed or who is the source. It is propaganda. Was it filmed in USA? At what week of pregnancy was it performed? What was the reason? A video like this is not evidence of a 39 week abortion.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 175 of 286 (854461)
06-08-2019 10:33 PM
Reply to: Message 174 by Faith
06-08-2019 10:16 PM


Re: Video of partial birth abortion of a fully formed baby
This has been discussed ad nauseum.
ABE
I notice you are incapable of discussing issues I raised about the video
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 177 of 286 (854469)
06-08-2019 10:52 PM
Reply to: Message 176 by Faith
06-08-2019 10:48 PM


Re: Video of partial birth abortion of a fully formed baby
Was it filmed in USA? At what week of pregnancy was it performed? What was the reason?
waiting.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 179 of 286 (854481)
06-09-2019 12:19 AM
Reply to: Message 178 by Faith
06-08-2019 11:19 PM


Re: Video of partial birth abortion of a fully formed baby
So the video is meaningless in the debate. If not from US irrelevant to your rants.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 181 of 286 (854522)
06-09-2019 4:55 PM


Abortion banned for rape victims and rapists can get custody
How is this for good Christian values.
quote:
When a young woman came to the Family Services of North Alabama office last year for help with trauma, saying she had been raped by her step-uncle when she was 15, rape crisis advocate Portia Shepherd heard something that “killed me, shocked me.”
The step-uncle, who was getting out of jail after a drug conviction, wanted to be a part of their child’s life. And in Alabama, the alleged rapist could get custody.
https://www.msn.com/...ental-rights-are-protected/ar-AACCye6
Going to be fun to listen to Faith defend this.

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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 188 of 286 (855351)
06-18-2019 7:32 PM
Reply to: Message 184 by Sarah Bellum
06-18-2019 5:52 PM


Re: Partial birth abortion is not an accurate term
So you readily admit it's a made up term with no medical basis for the term. There is no birth involved at all. Thank you for repeating evidence I presented and agreeing with me. Still waiting for that elusive 39 week abortion evidence.
Next.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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