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Theodoric
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Message 106 of 953 (854382)
06-07-2019 10:45 PM
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06-07-2019 10:22 PM


You might want to find actual data to back up those claims. Swedes are actually quite happy with their country. Crime is not a problem because of refugees. Either you are lying, your sources are lying or the Swedish government has a huge conspiracy going and are putting their citizens at risk. Why would the swedish government put their citizens at risk? Conspiracy theories have no validity without evidence.
PolitiFact | What the statistics say about Sweden, immigration and crime
FACT CHECK: Crime in Sweden, Part I: Is Sweden the 'Rape Capital' of Europe?
Just a moment...
Sensationalistic propaganda is rarely an accurate picture of reality.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Message 107 of 953 (854384)
06-08-2019 12:23 AM
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06-07-2019 10:22 PM


Rise of the Reich
Wow, you’ve gone that far to the right?
The Rising Alt-Reich works in the most insidious of ways.
You do know Sweden has been a democracy for some time now, has an excellent reputation as an honest broker the world over, and is counted today as among the more progressive nations. They know full well what their status is, what their economy is like and they have open free elections, not like the kind we have in North Carolina. And there are few if any protests openly challenging the present government.
If they, the people, wanted to stop this so called infliction from beyond they had plenty of opportunity in the past 50 years.
Even their lean to the right in the recent EU election, caused in no small part by immigration concerns, is a result of a free society not a weakened threatened one. Sweden is a good neighbor and deserves our support.
This is a propaganda piece for the alt-reich. You couldn’t get an audience somewhere else? You had to poison this forum with your propaganda?
Your message is rejected.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Message 108 of 953 (854401)
06-08-2019 9:58 AM
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06-07-2019 10:45 PM


Rape has increased in Sweden and of any country in Europe has the lowest conviction rate. Everybody knows this happening, but the government's failure to connect the dots is a substantiation of what citizens have been saying for some time. Sweden's desire to import refugees is likely viewed at seeing the successes from nations like the US, UK, Canada, and Australia. They want to build a functioning multi-cultural society. And while that is fine and good, they went about it the wrong way. You cannot open the salvo of war-torn nations and expect a good outcome. The overwhelmingly functional multiculturalism found in the US and the UK is from a trickling effect spanning several decades and even centuries. To think that you can just pluck thousands of people of war-torn areas and integrate them into a totally new society seamlessly is naive.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 109 of 953 (854402)
06-08-2019 10:14 AM
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06-08-2019 12:23 AM


Re: Rise of the Reich
Wow, you’ve gone that far to the right?
Where have you been for the last 15 years? I used to be way further to the Right. If anything, I've been inching to the Left to a more Centrist viewpoint and have been for about 10 years.
The Rising Alt-Reich works in the most insidious of ways.
Perhaps it says more about your own biases to label me as "Alt-Right" or "Alt-Reich" than it does about my actual socio-political viewpoints.
You do know Sweden has been a democracy for some time now, has an excellent reputation as an honest broker the world over, and is counted today as among the more progressive nations.
I would replace has with had.
Even their lean to the right in the recent EU election, caused in no small part by immigration concerns, is a result of a free society not a weakened threatened one. Sweden is a good neighbor and deserves our support.
We're in agreement. I love metal, therefore I love Sweden!
This is a propaganda piece for the alt-reich. You couldn’t get an audience somewhere else? You had to poison this forum with your propaganda?
And herein lies the perennial problem... anytime a left-leaning person hears or sees something that offends their delicate sensibilities, its easier to denounce it as Alt-Right propaganda and refer to it as "poison" than to come to a consensus.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Theodoric
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Message 110 of 953 (854403)
06-08-2019 10:26 AM
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06-08-2019 9:58 AM


Did you bother to read the reasons for the increase? If convictions were high would you claim feminists are conspiring against men?
You have provided no data. All the data shown so far shows your alt-right bullshit is in fact alt-right bullshit.
Your posts fit Hitchen's Razor to a T.
"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 111 of 953 (854404)
06-08-2019 11:02 AM
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06-08-2019 10:26 AM


Did you bother to read the reasons for the increase? If convictions were high would you claim feminists are conspiring against men?
You have provided no data. All the data shown so far shows your alt-right bullshit is in fact alt-right bullshit.
Haha, is Amnesty International alt-right??? Politico has been called either left-leaning or centrist. I think what you really mean is, "I won't accept anything that counters my worldview."
Keep calling me alt-right and I'll start referring to you as Antifa... and we'll see how productive it is.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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AZPaul3
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Message 112 of 953 (854405)
06-08-2019 11:05 AM
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06-08-2019 10:14 AM


Re: Rise of the Reich
And herein lies the perennial problem... anytime a left-leaning person hears or sees something that offends their delicate sensibilities, its easier to denounce it as Alt-Right propaganda and refer to it as "poison" than to come to a consensus.
No, Hyro, the perennial problem is the rise of the right.
We've experienced the conduct and action of the political right in our history and we know how devastating to life and liberty it inevitably becomes.
The only response that has ever been effective is to stomp on its head and kill it before its influence gains political power.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Theodoric
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Message 113 of 953 (854407)
06-08-2019 11:56 AM
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06-08-2019 11:02 AM


Still waiting you to present data and evidence for your original assertion. You criticize the sources presented but present none of your own. Bad form. But typical. The one attempt at evidence, the Amnesty report, does not support your contention that immigrants are responsible for a large amount of rapes in Sweden. If it does please point it out. I do not see any mention of immigrants in the report at all.
What I really mean is provide evidence. As of yet I have seen no evidence just assertions.
Keep calling me alt-right and I'll start referring to you as Antifa
Thank you I am anti-fascist, and your arguments meet the definition of alt-right. So I guess we know where we each stand. I guess next time you are going to get real brutal and call me a Social Justice Warrior.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Tanypteryx
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Message 114 of 953 (854410)
06-08-2019 12:19 PM
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06-08-2019 11:56 AM


I guess next time you are going to get real brutal and call me a Social Justice Warrior.
You Social Justice Warriors are all the same, next you will want equal rights for women.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
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If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Hyroglyphx
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Message 115 of 953 (854412)
06-08-2019 2:30 PM
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06-08-2019 11:05 AM


Re: Rise of the Reich
No, Hyro, the perennial problem is the rise of the right.
We've experienced the conduct and action of the political right in our history and we know how devastating to life and liberty it inevitably becomes.
Seems to me the Right and Left is both going are shifting further to extremes and antagonizing the other which is drowning out rational voices from both the Left and Right. The extremism of the Right is a reaction to the extremism of the Left, and vice versa. Its almost to the point where moderate right and moderate left have more in common than far right and far left.
The only response that has ever been effective is to stomp on its head and kill it before its influence gains political power.
Like ANTIFA? I'm curious to know your thoughts on that counter-culture.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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AZPaul3
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Message 116 of 953 (854413)
06-08-2019 3:12 PM
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06-08-2019 2:30 PM


Re: Rise of the Reich
Its almost to the point where moderate right and moderate left have more in common than far right and far left.
{chuckle} You don't say.
Your video is the modern equivalent of the flyer the bundist’s* used to hand out on the street corner to get people into their meetings. It is a message of fear meant to inflame the passions of hate for “them”, whichever “them” is the target for this generation. Unsubstantiated crimes against white society especially highlighting the epidemic of rape of our white women. The collapse of our cultural values as "them" walk our streets and breath our air. Fear mongering.
Like ANTIFA? I'm curious to know your thoughts on that counter-culture.
Punch a nazi in the nose culture? I'm all for it.
*bundist
Edited by AZPaul3, : added definition

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Message 117 of 953 (854424)
06-08-2019 3:41 PM
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06-08-2019 2:30 PM


Re: Rise of the Reich
Its almost to the point where moderate right and moderate left have more in common than far right and far left.
Interesting, so you're saying that moderates have more in common than extremists?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Theodoric
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Message 118 of 953 (854425)
06-08-2019 3:47 PM
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06-08-2019 3:41 PM


Re: Rise of the Reich
I am really hoping he misspoke, because that comment is almost trumpesque.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Tanypteryx
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Message 119 of 953 (854427)
06-08-2019 4:20 PM
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06-08-2019 3:47 PM


Re: Rise of the Reich
I am really hoping he misspoke, because that comment is almost trumpesque.
That's what makes it funny, but yeah, I assume he misspoke.

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Message 120 of 953 (854443)
06-08-2019 9:28 PM
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06-08-2019 3:12 PM


Re: Rise of the Reich
I'm for punching Nazis in the nose too. You can start with Antifa because they are certainly the brownshirts of today, the fascists of today. Very clever to pretend they are opposed to fascism when they ARE fascism. As Reagan said, "If fascism ever comes to America it will be in the form of liberalism." He was right. It's here.
Trump represents what remains of true American liberty after decades of assault by Cultural Marxism in the universities, and you all don't know it. When you punish us in the name of antifascism you will be punishing what you think you represent and empowering what you want to defeat. Things have never been so upside down and backwards.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.
2Cr 10:4-5 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God...
Political Correctness is Cultural Marxism
If fascism comes to America it will be in the form of liberalism -Ronald Reagan

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