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Faith 
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Message 2291 of 5796 (854441)
06-08-2019 9:11 PM
Reply to: Message 2290 by JonF
06-08-2019 8:48 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
Sorry I guess I am obtuse about this, but then I do have a problem with how the Llbeftists explain things.
I do think I get the bottom llne though: the deal has gone through, Mexico IS going to stop the caravans, and there will be no tariffs as long as they do. Yippee if so.
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Faith 
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Message 2293 of 5796 (854445)
06-08-2019 9:32 PM
Reply to: Message 2292 by DrJones*
06-08-2019 9:14 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
Of course it matters if they stop the caravans, since that is what we want above all, cessation of the floods of illegal immigrants over our border, and as I understand it that WILL stop the tariffs Trump threatened against Mexico so that should make everybody happy.
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Faith 
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Message 2295 of 5796 (854459)
06-08-2019 10:31 PM
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06-08-2019 9:35 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
Looks to me llke he knew what he was doing and that Mexico would stop the flood of illegal immigrants because of the threat of the tariff. \
However, any action to stop the caravans is late coming and up to this point it has looked like Trump has backed down or his policies have failed, so although I'm happy IF this is what it sounds like and IF it continues, part of me is skeptical and cynical about it. I can hope up to a point, but I've been getting used to disappointment. We'll see where it goes.
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Message 2297 of 5796 (854463)
06-08-2019 10:36 PM
Reply to: Message 2296 by Theodoric
06-08-2019 10:32 PM


Re: little donnie lies again to make himself feel like a man
I don't think he lies, he believes what he says, but I don't care at this point anyway. All I care about is that he made a deal that stopped the caravans.
Ya know what. He IS a man, he's a strong personality, flawed for sure but strong where it counts. He's withstood almost three years of personal attacks. That takes character where it counts. He knows his cause is a good one and that his supporters know it too.
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Faith 
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Message 2299 of 5796 (854468)
06-08-2019 10:51 PM
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06-08-2019 10:49 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
Whatever, who cares. If it took tariffs, fine with me. Whatever works.

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Faith 
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Message 2303 of 5796 (854475)
06-08-2019 11:18 PM
Reply to: Message 2302 by Theodoric
06-08-2019 10:57 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
Look, I always have to take anything you guys say with a huge grain of salt. I'm waiting to hear other explanations than yours. It was the tariffs that did it apparently, whatever the earlier agreement was about, I think Trump gets credit for knowing that tariffs would work. That's enough for me at the moment.

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Message 2307 of 5796 (854538)
06-10-2019 3:30 AM
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06-09-2019 9:29 AM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
Well, we know those huge caravans come up through Mexico's southern border so stopping those should accomplish a big reduction in the flood of illegals into the US. If there are other sources so what, they need to be dealt with too. But your implication that stopping the caravans accomplishes nothing is obviously wrong.

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Faith 
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Message 2314 of 5796 (854555)
06-10-2019 1:04 PM


So Rush Limbaugh this morning gave the most likely explanation, that of course the Izquierdo/Left somehow fails to know about: it was the NYTimes that lied, not Trump, the whole point being the usual: to put out fake news designed to make Trump look bad, look like a liar, whatever, although they are the ones who lied. As usual. The deal with Mexico that everone started out calling a win for Trump, really is a win for Trump, but the Gauchiste just can't allow Trump to win anything , not for long anyway. So here comes the fake news to kill it.
Thanks to the Dragonfly more words are now coming under the Mad Censor's poison deleter, so if you want to know what I'm saying use "Peek." If you don't care what I'm saying the Censor is making it easier for you. He doesn't like anything that tells it like it is about the Left. That way he preserves the one-sided politics of EvC.
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Faith 
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Message 2317 of 5796 (854558)
06-10-2019 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 2313 by PaulK
06-10-2019 12:31 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
What flood? From what I’ve read illegal immigration through the southern border is historically low right now. It’s just Trump playing to his xenophobic (and often racist) base,
You must be reading Fake News. Not to mention following the usual lying slander of Trump with Cultural Marxist terminology, lying character assassination.

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Faith 
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Message 2318 of 5796 (854559)
06-10-2019 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 2316 by JonF
06-10-2019 1:09 PM


He reported on the successful deal on Friday and all this debunker came down over the weekend. It's typical Leftist Fake News, so that's how I'm likely to view it.
As far as evidence goes, he mentioned that as usual the NYT didn't give any evidence, referred only to unnamed sources which could even be invented by them. If they aren't giving evidence why should Limbaugh? His speculations are just as good as theirs.
Even if it were literally true that the deal was made months ago it's still the same deal, still the same win for Trump. Why wouldn't it be? In any case Mexico didn't start implementing its end of the deal until Friday, and that's the real news anyway.
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Message 2322 of 5796 (854568)
06-10-2019 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 2320 by Tanypteryx
06-10-2019 1:43 PM


Re: What is the actual deal?
What I've heard is that they detain the people in Mexico, process asylum seekers there, have dispatched some 6000 troops to manage them. Sending many of them back too I think. Basically what we have to do when they reach our border although we've run out of facilities and people necessary to handle them. Not to mention our demented laws that don't let us send them back.

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Message 2323 of 5796 (854569)
06-10-2019 2:14 PM
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06-10-2019 2:10 PM


Oh I have every reason to suspect the NYT. They are a big purveyor of ffke nws.
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Message 2330 of 5796 (854578)
06-10-2019 2:50 PM
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06-10-2019 2:34 PM


duplicate
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Faith 
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Message 2331 of 5796 (854580)
06-10-2019 2:51 PM
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06-10-2019 2:34 PM


Faith doesn’t trust people who tell the truth. She only trusts people who say things she llkes.
Alinsky's Rules for Radicals perhaps? Accuse your opponent of doing what you in fact are doing.
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Faith 
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Message 2339 of 5796 (854598)
06-10-2019 6:06 PM
Reply to: Message 2338 by Percy
06-10-2019 5:57 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
Funny, I've heard a lot of interviews with ICE and border patrol people over the last year or so and they are very clear that there has been a crisis for some time that they are not equipped to handle for lack of funding, thanks of course to the Democrat Congress. They say a wall would help a lot.

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