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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4344 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.9 |
So how many square miles of building roofs are there in Nebraska?
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 737 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
This was utility scale, not rooftop solar.
It was a 21 acre site. Here is a darn good June 5,2019 article. It is long, but covers potential cost issues
quote: That was only half of the article.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Joe Biden: Creepy, Uncle Joe who loves to inappropriately touch women and little kids... the human gaffe machine that has an uncanny knack for saying the wrong thing at the wrong time. His age is certainly a question mark, but he does have a ton of political experience. He knows how Washington works... I'll let you decide if that's a liability or an asset. He'll have a deep electoral base though.
Tulsi Gabbard: I don't think she'll have the push to be a serious contender, but she is 1 of 2 Democrats that I would ever remotely consider electing. I like her military background and she's very eloquent. Ultimately I think she's a high rising meteor that will fizzle out. The crooked DNC will make sure she's a hit job if she comes anywhere close to the reigns of power. Kamala Harris: She tries too hard to rebrand herself as a true liberal while having been a hard-nosed prosecutor in California. She is eloquent and has a veneer of presidential qualities, but to some Democrats she's way too conservative and to Republicans she's way too liberal (especially on guns). She's in a political no-man's land. But then again, Trump got elected so.... stranger things have happened. Beto O'Rourke: Mr. Platitude; oh, but he's so Obama-esque! This guy has nothing substantive to say. When you get through all his double-speak the guy doesn't have a single definable plan for any of his pie-in-the-sky platitudes. He just knows what sounds liberal to liberals... Bernie Sanders: He's got a lot of experience... and while I vehemently disagree with just about everything that comes out of his mouth, I sense that he is genuine whereas most politicians are, well, typical narcissistic politicians who will do anything and say anything if it ascends them to a role of power. His age is a factor, but he's got a very deep base. He's one of the only real contenders in the race. Elizabeth Warren: Fake. Fake. Fake. She's cut from the same cloth as Hilary Clinton - a fake as fuck blowhard who is the antithesis of Sanders. There is nothing genuine about her, except her genuine desire for power. I have ZERO respect for her. She's a moron and a died-in-the-wool politician. But she will have a big backing from the behemoth that is the DNC. I would like to think that real liberals can see through the smokescreen just like they finally did when they saw the Clinton/DNC derail Bernie. Andrew Yang: Probably the only Democratic candidate to get praise from FOX viewers... why? Because he has an actual plan that actually is measurable and based on rational inferences. He's the exact opposite of Beto (Mr. Platitudes). But his problem at this point in time is that he's really only known for his universal income schtick. He's a one-trick pony at this point. If he wants to be a serious contender, he is going to have to expand on his ideas. If he can follow suit he has the potential to bring a lot of Republicans over. Corey Booker, de Blasio, Julian Castro, Buttigieg have some qualities that are appealing and some not so appealing.... they'll all likely fade away. Howard Schultz, running as an Independent, has a lot of good ideas... he's a candidate who is liberal, but not too liberal, with some conservative ideas, but not too conservative... But he has no real big push or star power. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Taq Member Posts: 9970 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
Hyroglphyx writes: Elizabeth Warren: Fake. Fake. Fake. She's cut from the same cloth as Hilary Clinton - a fake as fuck blowhard who is the antithesis of Sanders. There is nothing genuine about her, except her genuine desire for power. I have ZERO respect for her. She's a moron and a died-in-the-wool politician. But she will have a big backing from the behemoth that is the DNC. I would like to think that real liberals can see through the smokescreen just like they finally did when they saw the Clinton/DNC derail Bernie. I am really curious what led you to this opinions. I am not trying to debate any points here, just curious about how other people perceive her.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
I am really curious what led you to this opinions. I am not trying to debate any points here, just curious about how other people perceive her. I can only speak for myself, but she strikes me as a total elitist who bemoans the injustices of the poor while being so wildly removed from it. Pelosi, Clinton and Warren come to mind as being disingenuous and hyper-partisan. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
But all you have are your feelings?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Percy Member Posts: 22388 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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Theodoric writes: But all you have are your feelings? I was struck by that generally. There were good reasons for what was thought good, and emotionalism behind what was thought bad. --Percy
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4344 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.9
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Pelosi, Clinton and Warren come to mind as being disingenuous and hyper-partisan. And they're all women, but I have a hard time imagining any Democrat in leadership or candidate positions not being hyper-partisan, after dealing with Mitch McConnell and Congressional Republicans this past decade. And they are each expert-level knowledgeable in their field, Congress and the law and effective leadership, world affairs, and banking and finance. You may not like their personalities or histories, but I don't think you can credibly deny their qualifications. I am always amazed that there are people who would intentionally seek jobs that consist of sitting in meetings, all day, every day. Disingenuous is a good word. I would say it can be validly used to describe most politicians. Can you name any Republicans that are not hyper-partisan considering Trump's 90+% approval from Republicans?What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Tanypteryx writes: Can you name any Republicans that are not hyper-partisan considering Trump's 90+% approval from Republicans? Maybe one living and one recently dead. Justin Amash has stated publicly that Trump has committed impeachable offenses. John McCain who was certainly not hyper-partisan and stood up where it counted in significant votes.
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 737 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
quote: Amash was the first Ron Paul-clone to ever get elected (in 2010). A solidly anti-war, pro-immigration libertarian. He called John McCain "racist" for calling a past Iranian President a "monkey". McCain has a history of bashing gays and making racist comments about non Europeans (like Asians, Iranians, etc.). And he was a dangerous warmonger (and I mean really dangerous). McCain was fairly pro-immigration and very pro trade, but that does not excuse his very real problem with racism.
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anglagard Member (Idle past 836 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: |
"The few exceptions prove the rule"
- Joe Biden (may be plagiarized).Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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LOL
Read the question to which I was replying. Find racist, warmongering or derogatory statements in the question to which I was replying. Sheesh!
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Taq Member Posts: 9970 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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Tanypteryx writes: And they're all women, but I have a hard time imagining any Democrat in leadership or candidate positions not being hyper-partisan, after dealing with Mitch McConnell and Congressional Republicans this past decade. That's what I think as well. When Republicans wouldn't even consider Obama's nomination for the Supreme Court they crossed a serious line. After that, they got rid of the fillibuster for nominees once they were in charge. In this atmosphere, just being normal is hyper-partisan in comparison. For me, I don't like Warren's style, but I wouldn't call her fake. Out of the current field, Warren is really the only one I can point to and name real accomplishments she has made on the behalf of citizens, such as the Consumer Protection agency. Her positions on the accessibility of education is also something I strongly agree with. I just wish hearing her voice didn't make me cringe.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4344 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.9
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I feel the same way about warren. She might hold her own with Trump, but right now I am hoping one of the younger people will emerge as likely winner against President Shit-for-Brains. That and dominating the House and Senate are as important in my mind as policy. Policy is important but if you don't have the power it means nothing.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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I feel the same way about warren. She might hold her own with Trump, but right now I am hoping one of the younger people will emerge as likely winner against President Shit-for-Brains. ... For me, she is rising into second place behind Bernie. All the candidates are using issues Bernie raised in 2016, and except for Warren carrying some of her original issues, they are there because of Bernie.
... That and dominating the House and Senate are as important in my mind as policy. Policy is important but if you don't have the power it means nothing. What you need is a candidate with coat-tails, and the only one so far that I can see is Bernie. You wouldn't have AOC and other progressives that won in 2018 without him and his 2016 campaign and continued effort to build our revolution (not me us). He brings in independents that are wary of the democratic party and their history of failure to provide for working people in their lifetimes. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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