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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
But the justice system is not based on "any doubt at all". It's supposedly based on "reasonable doubt' and there was no reasonable doubt, apparently, in the cases I mentioned. In reality, of course, the justice system is based very much on emotion rather than reason - which is why there is so much racism in the justice system.
Yes, the wrongful convictions are certainly a strong reason to reject the death penalty where there is any doubt at all. Faith writes:
Not according to the Bible:
... in principle it is right to punish murderers by death.quote: quote: Izquierdo.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
And my point is that in our justice system -and in reality in general - there is no possibility of no doubt. Look at yourself, who has no doubt about your conclusions no matter how wrong they are. That's why Jesus said that none of us is qualified to throw the first stone. My point was that since there have been so many mistakes made, finding innocent people guilty, that for the death penalty we should be holding out for no doubt at all.Izquierdo.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Since God forbade capital punishment before Noah and Jesus forbade it after Noah, I don't see how the statement to Noah can be taken as a command. It seems like more of a prediction.
I had to add that God told Noah that whoever kills a man must be killed by man. Faith writes:
Even DNA is not infallible. As for no doubt, since we have DNA we can now have no doubt.Izquierdo.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Yes he did:
Jesus did not forbid capital punishment....quote:That is a de facto end to capital punishment. No qualified executioners = no executions. Period. There is no possibility of humans ever executing humans without disobeying Jesus. Faith writes:
You're misusing God's word to Noah:
... so God's word to Noah stands.quote:1. It doesn't say anything about murder or an other crime. 2. It says that animals will shed your blood, so it isn't talking about the justice system at all. 3. "the hand of every man's brother" seems pretty clear that it's talking about revenge killings. Izquierdo.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Your quote is wrong. It ignores what the Bible actually says and spins it into the opposite. That's why you shouldn't pay any attention to commentators or apologists. They're pushing their own agenda. Nope. See second quote in Message 2232 Go to the source. The source is clear: Genesis 4, Genesis 9 and John 8, all in agreement.Izquierdo.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Stabbing is not what I look for in a hero. The woman in London who stabbed the baby Trump blimp and then announced that Trump is the best President we've ever had.Izquierdo.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Years ago - it might have been the 1972 federal election - we had a political ad that showed a man putting up a billboard, "Lib." ... Llbeftists.... Then there was another shot of another man putting up, "tive." Then another shot of the first man, "Liber." Then another shot of the second man, "vative." Then finally, a wide shot that showed both men working on the same billboard, "Libervative." The joke, in case you don't get it, is that both Liberals and Conservatives are too conservative.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
I **** it. It's *****. If you don't care what I'm saying the Censor is making it easier for you.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
The rules are pretty much military ideas that have been used for centuries. Alinsky's Rules for Radicals perhaps?All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Are you even willing to work with the majority of the House who are ravening leftist wolves intent on destroying America? But I'm for doing whatever WE can to put pressure on him and on Congress at least to make a strong statement."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
I suspect that the "good cause" you want to support consists of many people who are farther left than any Democrat. It might be good for them and us if they put their minds to such a good cause and got distracted for a while from destroying the country."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
"Western style freedom" is very far to the left of you. The people of Hong Kong? They've been experiencing western style freedom for a long time, why would they be on the Left?"Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
I don't think you do. If you look at the political parties in Hong Kong, the conservative parties tend to be pro-Beijing and the pro-democracy parties tend to be liberal. Oh now I get it. Of course. Edited by ringo, : No reason given."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
That sounds kinda crazy, doesn't it? ... citizens should be free to donate to such killings to their heart's content. Is it okay for citizens to donate to gang killings or mass shootings? If my neighbour wants to kill his wife, should I be allowed to donate to the cause because I don't like her either? It seems pretty clear that you don't really equate abortion with murder."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
"Immigrants" means the ones we are getting. Obviously he's not talking about ALL immigrants because he says we're only getting the bad ones, meaning there are good ones but we aren't getting them."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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