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dwise1
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Message 2311 of 5796 (854548)
06-10-2019 11:54 AM
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06-10-2019 7:42 AM


Re: Tariffs and willful ignorance
Actually, Faith left willful ignorance behind long ago. Now she practices willful stupidity, dedicating herself to avoiding learning anything at all.

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Message 2312 of 5796 (854553)
06-10-2019 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 2307 by Faith
06-10-2019 3:30 AM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
LOL
The big flood is not from the caravans Faith, it is a continuous trickle.
It is only the willfully ignorant that think the problem is the caravans.

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Message 2313 of 5796 (854554)
06-10-2019 12:31 PM
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06-10-2019 12:28 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
What flood? From what I’ve read illegal immigration through the southern border is historically low right now. It’s just Trump playing to his xenophobic (and often racist) base,

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Faith 
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Message 2314 of 5796 (854555)
06-10-2019 1:04 PM


So Rush Limbaugh this morning gave the most likely explanation, that of course the Izquierdo/Left somehow fails to know about: it was the NYTimes that lied, not Trump, the whole point being the usual: to put out fake news designed to make Trump look bad, look like a liar, whatever, although they are the ones who lied. As usual. The deal with Mexico that everone started out calling a win for Trump, really is a win for Trump, but the Gauchiste just can't allow Trump to win anything , not for long anyway. So here comes the fake news to kill it.
Thanks to the Dragonfly more words are now coming under the Mad Censor's poison deleter, so if you want to know what I'm saying use "Peek." If you don't care what I'm saying the Censor is making it easier for you. He doesn't like anything that tells it like it is about the Left. That way he preserves the one-sided politics of EvC.
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Message 2315 of 5796 (854556)
06-10-2019 1:08 PM
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06-10-2019 1:04 PM


Faith writes:
If you don't care what I'm saying the Censor is making it easier for you.
I **** it. It's *****.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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JonF
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Message 2316 of 5796 (854557)
06-10-2019 1:09 PM
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06-10-2019 1:04 PM


Did he offer any evidence? If so, what? If not, how did you determine it's "most likely"?

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Message 2317 of 5796 (854558)
06-10-2019 1:14 PM
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06-10-2019 12:31 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
What flood? From what I’ve read illegal immigration through the southern border is historically low right now. It’s just Trump playing to his xenophobic (and often racist) base,
You must be reading Fake News. Not to mention following the usual lying slander of Trump with Cultural Marxist terminology, lying character assassination.

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Message 2318 of 5796 (854559)
06-10-2019 1:26 PM
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06-10-2019 1:09 PM


He reported on the successful deal on Friday and all this debunker came down over the weekend. It's typical Leftist Fake News, so that's how I'm likely to view it.
As far as evidence goes, he mentioned that as usual the NYT didn't give any evidence, referred only to unnamed sources which could even be invented by them. If they aren't giving evidence why should Limbaugh? His speculations are just as good as theirs.
Even if it were literally true that the deal was made months ago it's still the same deal, still the same win for Trump. Why wouldn't it be? In any case Mexico didn't start implementing its end of the deal until Friday, and that's the real news anyway.
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PaulK
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Message 2319 of 5796 (854561)
06-10-2019 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 2317 by Faith
06-10-2019 1:14 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
quote:
You must be reading Fake News.
Then please provide more reliable information. And no I don’t mean videos from some guy on YouTube.
quote:
Not to mention following the usual ***** slander of Trump with Cultural Marxist terminology, ***** character assassination.
No, none of that there.
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Tanypteryx
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Message 2320 of 5796 (854562)
06-10-2019 1:43 PM


What is the actual deal?
What specifically is in the deal that supposedly was reached Friday? What specifically is Mexico going to start doing that they have not been doing? How specifically is Mexico going to stop migrants and asylum seekers, shoot them all?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
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JonF
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Message 2321 of 5796 (854567)
06-10-2019 2:10 PM
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06-10-2019 1:26 PM


If it was made months ago it was a win for Kirstjen Nielsen and who did the negotiating. But now she's an un-person.
At least the Times claimed some sources, and you have no reason to believe they made them up. They have no history of such.
You didn't say Limbaugh's speculations are as good as theirs, you said Limaugh's were better why?

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Message 2322 of 5796 (854568)
06-10-2019 2:12 PM
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06-10-2019 1:43 PM


Re: What is the actual deal?
What I've heard is that they detain the people in Mexico, process asylum seekers there, have dispatched some 6000 troops to manage them. Sending many of them back too I think. Basically what we have to do when they reach our border although we've run out of facilities and people necessary to handle them. Not to mention our demented laws that don't let us send them back.

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Message 2323 of 5796 (854569)
06-10-2019 2:14 PM
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06-10-2019 2:10 PM


Oh I have every reason to suspect the NYT. They are a big purveyor of ffke nws.
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Message 2324 of 5796 (854570)
06-10-2019 2:28 PM
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06-10-2019 1:43 PM


Re: What is the actual deal?
Mexico agreed to send 6,000 of their newly formed National Guard to the Guatemalan border. Exactly what actions they may take we don't know.
Mexico will expand holding asylum seekers returned to Mexico after their initial application.
The two countries will hold further talks on a "safe third country" agreement which would force most asylum seekers to seek asylum in Mexico rather than the US.
Trump said that there's a secret "very important part" that will be revealed someday. Trump also tweeted "MEXICO HAS AGREED TO IMMEDIATELY BEGIN BUYING LARGE QUANTITIES OF AGRICULTURAL PRODUCT FROM OUR GREAT PATRIOT FARMERS!", which Mexico denies and which seems pretty weird since the Mexican government doesn't buy our food, private entities do, and the government can't force them to buy more.
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Message 2325 of 5796 (854571)
06-10-2019 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 2323 by Faith
06-10-2019 2:14 PM


Your "fake news" mantra doesn't affect reality. They are a big purveyor of true news that you don't like.
Can you list a few NYT articles that were fake and the evidence that they were fake?
Of course you can't.

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