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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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Faith doesn’t trust people who tell the truth. She only trusts people who say things she likes.
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Percy Member Posts: 22489 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
PaulK writes: What flood? From what I’ve read illegal immigration through the southern border is historically low right now. It’s just Trump playing to his xenophobic (and often racist) base, I think illegal immigration has been growing steadily this year, and has recently reached the highest levels of Trump's presidency. --Percy
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: But you don’t have to go back far to find higher levels still, do you?
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JonF Member (Idle past 193 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
There was no flood until very recently. It's increased a lot in 2019, due to many factors including fear that it's now or never.
Note that the top chart is monthly and the bottom chart is yearly. In 2019 to date the total is greater than any yearly total in the last ten years.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
duplicate
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Faith doesn’t trust people who tell the truth. She only trusts people who say things she llkes. Alinsky's Rules for Radicals perhaps? Accuse your opponent of doing what you in fact are doing. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: That’s what you do. In fact you’re doing it right now. (Indeed, i certainly don’t know Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”. Why should I?)
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JonF Member (Idle past 193 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
What flood? From what I’ve read illegal immigration through the southern border is historically low right now. It’s just Trump playing to his xenophobic (and often racist) base,
You must be reading Fake News. Not to mention following the usual ***** slander of Trump with Cultural Marxist terminology, ***** character assassination. NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/05/us/border-crossing-increase.html CNN 32% increase in migrants encountered or arrested at the southern border in May WaPo The crush of children at Arizona’s border shows a U.S. immigration system on the brink
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Yet the graphs show that the “11-year high” reported is less than the average under G W Bush (all monthly figures).
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JonF Member (Idle past 193 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It's not a record, but it's high.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
My point is to put it into context. While figures are high compared to the last ten years there have been much higher figures in the years before that.
The increase is greatly embarrassing to Trump, but it’s the increase rather than the headline figure that is significant at this point.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9196 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Do you even know what the Rules for Radicals are?
Go ahead list a couple. There are 13 total. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Percy Member Posts: 22489 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
I was looking for this chart when I composed my previous message. I wanted to use it to illustrate that Trump's claims of a crisis on the border are untrue. Border apprehensions over the past decade have been far lower than all years prior until you get back to the early 1970's, i.e., lower than at any time over the past half century. Trump manufactured the crisis out of thin air. Trump deals only in extremes. For him everything is either the best or the worst. Almost invariably he's making it up. We're only running short of holding facilities because Trump is trying to end the "apprehend and release" approach. Independent of whether that's the right thing do, ending it means there will need to be greatly increased holding capacity, which Trump is loath to do. --Percy
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Funny, I've heard a lot of interviews with ICE and border patrol people over the last year or so and they are very clear that there has been a crisis for some time that they are not equipped to handle for lack of funding, thanks of course to the Democrat Congress. They say a wall would help a lot.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
List them yourself. I'm not interested in remembering such evll stuff.
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