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Message 50 of 373 (854170)
06-05-2019 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by Faith
06-05-2019 11:52 AM


Re: No this is not about racism
Faith writes:

Call people racists who have said nothing to justify the term....


As I have pointed out to you before, being called a racist is nowhere near as bad as being a racist. Somebody who doesn't want to be a racist would ask how they can become less racist; they wouldn't complain about being called a racist.

Izquierdo.

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ringo
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Message 52 of 373 (854174)
06-05-2019 12:05 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Faith
06-05-2019 12:01 PM


Re: No this is not about racism
Faith writes:

Gosh, more twisted cleverness in the service of manufacturing guilt.


I'm not manufacturing anything. I'm pointing out that the cover-up is often worse than the crime. Remember Richard Nixon?

Izquierdo.

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Message 57 of 373 (854194)
06-05-2019 1:48 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by Taq
06-05-2019 1:32 PM


Re: It's really not race
As with almost all immigrant groups, it is the second generation that brings large rewards to the countries they immigrate to. This is why it is so important to invest in public education and ease of access for the poor.

This is the mistake that Canada makes, in my opinion. We tend to favour immigrants who are going to start a business and/or otherwise invest money. I think we should be bringing in more people who are willing to work three jobs to make a better life for their children.

Izquierdo.

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Message 63 of 373 (854203)
06-05-2019 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Faith
06-05-2019 4:06 PM


Re: No this is not about racism
Faith writes:

American culture is not the same, true, but that's because it's been degenerating since the sixties.


Since desegregation?

Izquierdo.

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Message 88 of 373 (854347)
06-07-2019 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Faith
06-06-2019 5:50 PM


Re: Marxism
Faith writes:

I'm more tuned into Cultural Marxism than economic Marxism....


It's often easier to tune into fiction than fact. We're well aware that you prefer fiction.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 102 of 373 (854378)
06-07-2019 8:32 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Hyroglyphx
06-07-2019 5:23 PM


Hyroglyphx writes:

Canadians may find it objectionable that Americans are moving to Canada... not because of race but because of culture.


I've never heard of that.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 145 of 373 (854521)
06-09-2019 3:19 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by Faith
06-09-2019 4:24 AM


Re: Rise of the Liberal Fourth Reich
Faith writes:

You've made it quite clear that you can't wait until Christians are wiped off the face of the Earth.


Speaking for myself, most of the people I know are Christians, so no, that would not be desirable at all. I'd bet that the same applies to most of us here.

As I've said to you before, the people you vilify here will be the first ones to defend you if anybody does try to oppress you.


All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 150 of 373 (854545)
06-10-2019 11:38 AM
Reply to: Message 148 by Faith
06-09-2019 7:19 PM


Re: Evangelical Christians demanding special privileges
Faith writes:

...mine is ideological you see, not personal.


Calling people liars is not ideological.

And the only ideologies you talk about are ones you don't understand. You might as well be yelling at Big-Endians.


All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 183 of 373 (854653)
06-11-2019 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 167 by foreveryoung
06-10-2019 7:52 PM


Re: No this is not about racism
foreveryoung writes:

Faith would be a racist if she believes caucasians are superior to all other races.


"Superiority" doesn't necessarily enter into it. Racism is the idea that people should be treated differently because of their "race".

foreveryoung writes:

She wants limits on immigration. Not all countries are equal. Some have more to offer America than others.


Immigration isn't by country; it's by individuals. And it isn't possible to predetermine who's going to make the greatest contribution, or whose children are going to make the greatest contribution.

foreveryoung writes:

Iran is fiercely Islamic. How would it's people feel if Christians made up over 50 percent of the nation over a very short period of time.


Are you suggesting that we should emulate Iran?

foreveryoung writes:

Culture is not race.


Well, it pretty much is. You said yourself that there is really no such thing as "race" any more. You seem to be trying to narrow the definition of racism to exclude almost everybody. As I said to Faith, it's worse to actually be a racist than to be called a racist. You guys should stop worrying about what people call you and start checking yourself for traces of racism.

foreveryoung writes:

If you bring in new cultures, it has to be at a slow pace...


Maybe you should take a look at US history around the turn of the twentieth century and a little place called Ellis Island.

foreveryoung writes:

... otherwise, society fragments and you have a recipe for civil war.


Again, take a look at US history. They did have a civil war and it was about racism.

foreveryoung writes:

If cultures dont blend and become one new culture, hostility is bound to escalate. That type of society is ideal for a totalitarian dictatorship in order to keep peace and order. Another result of such a society is that politicians will pit these disparate groups as victims of a boogey man which is generally the culture that either is the dominant one or recently was dominant.


You're talking about the fascist Trump pandering to racists. You're shooting yourself in the foot.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 199 of 373 (854754)
06-12-2019 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 198 by Faith
06-12-2019 1:49 AM


Re: The WWII Catholic Ratlines
Faith writes:

... while Protestantism as an ideology doesn't do anything of the sort....


Only "as an ideology", eh? Looks like a drifting goalpost to me. Because we know that individual Protestants like Jim Bakker, Rex Humbard, Jimmy Swaggart, etc. have done their share of crossing the line.

Edited by ringo, : Spellinge.


All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 204 of 373 (854831)
06-13-2019 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 202 by Faith
06-12-2019 11:15 PM


Re: The WWII Catholic Ratlines
Faith writes:

Protestants are certainly sinful but PROTESTANTISM is not as an institution guilty of some kind of organized sin the way the papacy is.


There's no such thing as "organized sin". Sin is an individual matter.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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ringo
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Message 341 of 373 (858539)
07-21-2019 2:45 PM
Reply to: Message 334 by Faith
07-21-2019 9:35 AM


Re: Almost a caricature
Faith writes:

I get all my stuff from Him.


No you don't. You get all your stuff from tradition.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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ringo
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Message 362 of 373 (858606)
07-22-2019 11:35 AM
Reply to: Message 343 by Faith
07-21-2019 8:15 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
Faith writes:

Tradition gets it from Him. My tradition anyway.


Your tradition disagrees with Him as often as not - e.g. the "Fall".

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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ringo
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Message 367 of 373 (858680)
07-22-2019 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 365 by Faith
07-22-2019 2:38 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
Faith writes:

My tradition disagrees with YOUR miserable mistreatment of Him.


I'm only going by what He is supposed to have said in the Bible. I know you disagree with the Bible.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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