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ringo
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Message 21 of 76 (854962)
06-14-2019 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Faith
06-13-2019 8:24 PM


Faith writes:

The only Pisces I've ever known at all is the most annoying person in my llfe.


I'm a Cancer.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 26 of 76 (854971)
06-14-2019 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Faith
06-14-2019 1:45 PM


Faith writes:

Yeah, Cancer is problematic too, and yes you are pretty annoying whereas AZ isn't too bad.


And I'm immune to chemo.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 28 of 76 (854973)
06-14-2019 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Faith
06-14-2019 2:07 PM


Faith writes:

I hope that's a joke.


Hello? It's an on-going joke: "I'm a Cancer."

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 39 of 76 (855028)
06-15-2019 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by Faith
06-14-2019 7:55 PM


Faith writes:

... in practice those who object to religion or the occult and astrology in particular just believe it's all hokum and won't give it a second thought.


The people who wrote the Bible were quite vociferous in their opposition to the occult and astrology.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 41 of 76 (855054)
06-15-2019 9:53 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Faith
06-15-2019 3:54 PM


Faith writes:

Yes they were, but I was talking bout the people here.


And I was just pointing out another example of your hypocrisy: dabbling in the occult while scarfing down shrimp and hating gays - when the Bible treats all three the same.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 53 of 76 (855097)
06-16-2019 2:09 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Thugpreacha
06-16-2019 7:21 AM


Re: Sense & Non-sense.
Phat writes:

I could care less how much research you have done---I too have read a lot of stuff, and have reached differing conclusions which are all tentative.


Both of you have read a lot of extra-Biblical "stuff" - which is a polite word for it. Too bad neither of you pays any attention to the actual Bible.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 54 of 76 (855098)
06-16-2019 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Thugpreacha
06-16-2019 12:23 PM


Re: Sense & Non-sense.
Phat writes:

Because non-believers cannot correct believers based only on consensual evidential data.


of course they can.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 56 of 76 (855116)
06-16-2019 2:55 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by AZPaul3
06-16-2019 2:48 PM


Re: Sense & Non-sense.
AZPaul3 writes:

What is consensual evidential data?


I took it as a consensus about what the evidence is. It isn't evidence unless we all agree what it is.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 60 of 76 (855128)
06-16-2019 3:33 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by AZPaul3
06-16-2019 3:25 PM


Re: Sense & Non-sense.
AZPaul3 writes:

So Thug is saying we cannot correct a preacher based on facts we all know and agree to?


That's how I took it - because believers have "higher knowledge" that is not constrained by mere facts.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 62 of 76 (855133)
06-16-2019 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Thugpreacha
06-16-2019 3:31 PM


Re: Sense & Non-sense.
Phat writes:

I pay attention and will take you on quote for quote.


But you never do.

Phat writes:

The problem is that you attribute the source as human authors rather than divine authorship.


That's not a "problem"; it's a necessary starting point. If the source does turn out to have some truth to it, then we can look at the source of the source.

Phat writes:

It is why we can never agree.


The only reason we "need" to disagree is if you choose fantasy over fact.

Phat writes:

Your side essentially settles on human wisdom as the final arbitrator. Our side settles on divine inspiration...


But you have only human wisdom to assess what is "divine inspiration".

Phat writes:

The jury is still out and it may be a hundred years before a verdict is reached.


No, the jury is in. Your refusal to accept the verdict doesn't make the verdict less of a fact.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 66 of 76 (855186)
06-17-2019 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by Faith
06-17-2019 7:40 AM


Re: Sense & Non-sense.
Faith writes:

The idea and legalities of human rights, civil rights, etc came out of Christianity.


Nope. Judaism, for one, had already developed those ideas before Christ was ever heard of.

Faith writes:

Christianity is the reason for the prosperity of the west and America in particular...


The reason for the prosperity of the west and America in particular was largely thieving from the east and the north and the south. If you want Christianity to take credit for that thieving, okay.

Faith writes:

... it's the reason America has always been a force for good in the world.


America joined the forces of good briefly, say from 1942 to 1945.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 70 of 76 (855197)
06-17-2019 4:48 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Faith
06-17-2019 4:42 PM


Re: Sense & Non-sense.
Faith writes:

Judaism had no influence on the west.


Tell that to the anti-semites.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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