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Message 37 of 76 (854998)
06-14-2019 8:30 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Thugpreacha
06-14-2019 10:13 AM


Re: Sense & Non-sense.
Trinitarianism IS in the Bible and your formula is completely false. I've posted the proof many times here already. I'll look it up again later, but the gist is that it is proved from many separate verses that describe, first, God as One, then the Father as a separate Person who acts independently, and Jesus as a separate Person who acts independently, and the Holy Spirit as a separate Person who acts independently, and the Father as God, and Jesus as God, and the Holy Spirit as God. That's One God in Three Persons. It's all there but it's not just in one place.

Message 232: This post has a link to a page that lists all the scripture verses that prove the Trinity. I should have linked to that page directly but oh well, this will get you there.

Since this is off-topic it's all I want to say and I hope we don't go further with it.

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Message 40 of 76 (855031)
06-15-2019 3:54 PM
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06-15-2019 11:37 AM


Yes they were and now that it's having consequences in my own life I have to recognize that this wasn't just a fun thing as long as I kept it on that level, astrology IS forbidden so this thread has to go, at least my posts on it.

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Message 42 of 76 (855055)
06-15-2019 10:00 PM
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06-15-2019 9:53 PM


I'm admitting to myself now that this thread IS "dabbling in the occult" so I'm trying to extricate myself from it. But as I've explained many times the New Testament made it clear that there is no problem for Christians in eating anything that was forbidden food to the Jews, and I don't hayte gays at all.

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Message 45 of 76 (855064)
06-16-2019 4:11 AM
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06-16-2019 4:02 AM


Re: Sense & Non-sense.
My pastor and all the pastors in every church I've spent any time in all teach the Trinity the same way that website does.
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Message 52 of 76 (855094)
06-16-2019 1:13 PM
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06-16-2019 7:21 AM


Re: Sense & Non-sense.
I thought I was just being factual, not "snippy" but sorry you took it that way.
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Message 65 of 76 (855165)
06-17-2019 7:40 AM
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06-16-2019 4:02 PM


Re: Sense & Non-sense.
Thug writes:

but don't try and use your own wisdom and secular psychological sociological world view to rewrite the belief.

Why not? That is what you all are trying to do to the whole damned world, isn't it?

And with the most devastating consequences for the human species.

Such as?

(Your odium toward Christianity is obscene.) (And Percy's censorship is just as obscene)

ABE: Christianity is the best thing that ever happened to the world. The idea and legalities of human rights, civil rights, etc came out of Christianity. It's all getting twisted in recent years but Christianity is where it originated. Christianity is the reason for the prosperity of the west and America in particular, it's the reason America has always been a force for good in the world. This antagonism toward Christianity that has been growing over the last few decades is going to destroy everything good.

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Message 68 of 76 (855195)
06-17-2019 4:37 PM
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06-17-2019 12:44 PM


Had to undo a lot of my posts on this thread, sorry.

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Message 69 of 76 (855196)
06-17-2019 4:42 PM
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06-17-2019 11:46 AM


Re: Sense & Non-sense.
The idea and legalities of human rights, civil rights, etc came out of Christianity.

Nope. Judaism, for one, had already developed those ideas before Christ was ever heard of.

Judaism had no influence on the west.


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Message 72 of 76 (855218)
06-17-2019 6:00 PM
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06-17-2019 5:49 PM


What's a "complete muppet?"

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Message 76 of 76 (856061)
06-26-2019 12:50 AM
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06-26-2019 12:33 AM


Star of Bethlehem
The guy who put this study of the Star of Bethlehem together did do some research into what other phenomena could explain it, and came to the conclusion that it was an unusually bright conjunction of Jupiter with Venus, unusual because the conjunction was so close the two couldn't be distinguished with the naked eye, making it appear exceptionally bright; and he says the math shows that this closeness is extremely rare, which made it the best candidate for the star.

He shows this at 44 on the counter if you're interested:

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