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Theodoric Member Posts: 9146 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
How is this for good Christian values.
quote:https://www.msn.com/...ental-rights-are-protected/ar-AACCye6 Going to be fun to listen to Faith defend this.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined:
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Why on earth would I defend this? I hope sanity prevails and his claim is denied.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 618 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
Does that mean you think it would be OK to put restrictions on 39-week abortions? How about abortions after viability where no danger to the woman or fetus is present?
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 618 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
So you're discussing a topic without knowing what . . . ?
OK, here's a quote from 'Partial-Birth Abortion': Separating Fact From Spin : NPR Where does the term "partial-birth" abortion come from? The term was first coined by the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC) in 1995 to describe a recently introduced medical procedure to remove fetuses from the womb. Alternately known as "dilation and extraction," or D&X, and "intact D&E," it involves removing the fetus intact by dilating a pregnant woman's cervix, then pulling the entire body out through the birth canal.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 618 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
But doesn't this mean an abortion of a 1-week gestation fetus is no different from the abortion of a 39-week gestation fetus?
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 618 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
Here's a quote from 'Partial-Birth Abortion': Separating Fact From Spin : NPR
Where does the term "partial-birth" abortion come from? The term was first coined by the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC) in 1995 to describe a recently introduced medical procedure to remove fetuses from the womb. Alternately known as "dilation and extraction," or D&X, and "intact D&E," it involves removing the fetus intact by dilating a pregnant woman's cervix, then pulling the entire body out through the birth canal.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
I didn't ask where the term comes from. I asked if it ever happens. Where does the term "partial-birth" abortion come from? And to move thi gs along, if it does happen, what are the circumstances?All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9146 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
So you readily admit it's a made up term with no medical basis for the term. There is no birth involved at all. Thank you for repeating evidence I presented and agreeing with me. Still waiting for that elusive 39 week abortion evidence.
Next. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
I didn't ask where the term comes from. I asked if it ever happens. Well, if this was Hollywood trickery it looked pretty goddamn real.... and gruesome. It also looked full-term to me. *** Faith, I really would skip this one if I were you... no matter how curious you are. Think of it as the scene where Indiana Jones was imploring Maryann to not look at the Ark of the Covenant... no matter what. *Warning-Graphic* A Partial Birth Abortion Filmed | MRCTV Edited by Hyroglyphx, : Caution note for Faith's sake"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
So you found a real one, I only found a staged one.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
So you found a real one, I only found a staged one. It might be staged... might be real... to be honest I had a hard time looking so I really can't validate the authenticity. *** edit to add: I just sucked it up and watched it... if it wasn't a prosthetic doll filled with goo then the baby appeared to be delivered stillborn. Either way its not a pleasant sight. Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given."Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Fortunately my eyes are bad so it's hard to see clearly, but I saw enough of it. It's real.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9146 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Without authentication and provenance it means nothing. You have seen horror movies and war movies havent you?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Without authentication and provenance it means nothing. You have seen horror movies and war movies havent you? Assuming it is real, would you support it or think that's where the line should be drawn? "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
But doesn't this mean an abortion of a 1-week gestation fetus is no different from the abortion of a 39-week gestation fetus? You and I have been discussing one issue: whether a person has the right to bodily autonomy. According to that one criterion, a one week old fetus is the same as a 39 week old fetus is the same as the person connected through the life support machine. There may be other characteristics where these differ, and some people may feel these differences are relevant. You seem to be one of these people.It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn’t know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman
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