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Dredge Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangle writes:
Never the option? Of course it's an option - you simply believe in a "nice" God of your own making and imagination. Organised religion doesn't have a monopoly on theism, you know.
Dredge writes:
I've never met one that wouldn't like a nice one. But that's never the option
Some atheists don't want God to exist. It's really sad that you have no meaning in the only life you have.
This life does have meaning for me - but only in the sense that I must endure it to get to the eternity of heaven. On the other hand, the atheist perspective means life has no purpose or meaning - you get born, spend a few years indulging in meaningless activities, then you die and and become eternal dust. A pointless, futile existence that amounts to nothing. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined:
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Faith writes:
Well said, Faith. And I really don't think there's all that much difference between the theologies of dredge and thugs and me. Insofar as we believe in what the Bible says anyway, because it SAYS "God is love" and "God so loved the world that He gave His only-begotten Son that whosoever believeth on Him should not perish but have everlasting llfe." That's a promise to love us isn't it? And "We love Him because He first loved us." In other words He gives us the means to fulfill that command to love Him. He loves us first and makes us know it. As far as I know, the Judeo-Christian faith is the only religion in which God tells humans that He loves them.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangle writes: No it's the opposite of a promise of love, it's a superstitious, murderous blood sacrifice for no sane reason. "For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.” (1Corinthians 1:18-19) "The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned" (1Cor 2:14)
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate. Yeah, I can just feel the love already.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
“Where the lion roareth, and the whangdoodle mourneth for her first-borne” - Izziwoggle 7:36
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Yeah, I can just feel the love already. Psychotic Santa Claus for delusional adults.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Dredge Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Stile writes:
I know that you don't know what you're talking about, because you know nothing at all about life after death.
Although I am not spiritually against the idea of life after death - I do know that it doesn't exist for the same reasons I know God doesn't exist.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Stile writes:
Please explain.
Abiogenesis is evidence towards God not existing again.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's the wisdom of the wise that says there is no God and God doesn't love us etc., the stuff you all are saying here and God is going to destroy that false wisdom.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I guess you have a different translation than I do, dredge. Mine says the cross is "the power of God UNTO SALVATION." Yours leaves out the last two words but they're crucial: the cross is what gives us eternal llfe. I hope that's what you believe. The cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, it says, which sadly seems to be most on this thread, the possessors of the "wisdom of the wise" which is only going to destroy them; but to us it is the means of our salvation. I hope your church hasn't deprived you of that knowledge.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
As far as I know, the Judeo-Christian faith is the only religion in which God tells humans that He loves them. True. Biblical religion is a religion of love, and a religion that gives us personal access to God Himself in relationship. Yes it is unique, but it is also the truth, the only true religion. There is something called "bhakti" Hinduism in which you cultivate love for God, but that's not quite the same thing as Christianity. Still, it's closer than most. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
So you keep threatening but nothing ever happens. None of your future prognostication will ever come true just like none of your past predictions. It's all bs.
Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
How is being deprived of a wisdom that is going to kill you a "threat?"
And of course that is more of the wisdom of the wise. I obviously can't change your mind. God could if you'd let Him but apparently you aren't interested. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I think what it means is that all that worldly wisdom will no longer exist when Jesus comes back and sets everything right for eternity.
I think it would make me rather peculiarly happy if you were there too. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
How is being deprived of a wisdom that is going to kill you a "threat?" Religious quackery. Wisdom does not kill. Religion kills. Care to compare body count, let's say, Crusades vs Penicillin?
God could if you'd let Him but apparently you aren't interested Humanity tried that already. Hasn't worked out for us. Nothing but torture, blood, war and a few statues. No thank you.
I think what it means is that all that worldly wisdom will no longer exist when Jesus comes back and sets everything right for eternity. Next time you talk at him tell him to take his time.
I think it would make me rather peculiarly happy if you were there too. Thank you, Love, but it really is not going to happen. It's not real.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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