I Know That God Does Not Exist

I've suffered serious illness since I was nineteen years old - I'm 60 now. So I can't wait until this life ends and a better one begins. If this life is all there is, one may as well live in a dreamworld, because it doesn't matter what one believes or does or feels - we all end up in the same place.Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

Precisely. Some atheist freely admit that life is meaningless, but they're a small minority. Most atheists choose to ignore the depressing implications of their own belief system - ie, that human life has no more value or meaning than the life of a flea or a rock or the atoms they're made of.Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

If everyone did that, who would fix the plumbing or the cars? Who would get married and produce offspring? You have some very odd ideas about Christianity.

Nonsense. At every Mass, Catholics recite the Apostles' or Nicene Creed, which begin with "I believe ...".Faith and beliefs are absolutely central to Christianity.It is the "will of my Father which is in heaven" that humans believe in Him and obey His commandents.

Can you prove objectively that a human life is more valuable or meaningful that the life of a flea?Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

To believe that life can come from non-life is unscientific, as it defies the laws of probability. So much for atheists being objective when it comes to science!Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

How do you know that?Can you list the laws of probability?

Right and 'in context' black is white. What crap. Read the words -
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.”'Evil' is very specific, there is no other context The idea of punishing the descendants for the sins of their fathers is evil in itself. And the punishment of being condemned to everlasting flames if you're nor persuaded by - or haven't even heard of - a stone age myth is just plain idiotic.

The existence of a god as described by any of the religions that mankind has made up is a childish absurdity.Your idea of deliberately inventing a god to believe in is infantile.

And you believe that a loving god did that to you? For an imaginary sin of someone else? That's just weird. But I sympathise with your personal situation. At least you won't be disappointed. You won't be anything. But what a sad indictment of your god. Again, that's just plain stupid. If this is all there is, make the best of it. It is ordinarily possible to lead a fulfilling life without having to believe there's some fairytale following it.

You think the world is only populated by your kind of Christian? But yeh, it's yet another dumb religious idea. I just read your book and take it at face value. Actual believers of the book tend to ignore, 'interpret' and 'put in context' the bits that are a bit tricky for them.Mark 10:21 ESVAnd Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, “You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”Luke 14:33 ESVSo therefore, any one of you who does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple.

I am only claiming that I Know That God Does Not Exist.So far - no one has been able to come up with an argument that shows the opening post to be in error.

"Value" is subjective.No one can prove 'objectively' that anything is more valuable than anything else in any general over-arching sense.
Many people try, though - they are usually con-men or have another agenda they are pursuing.An objective value judgement can only be done relative to an objective standard that is defined and agreed upon by all those making the value judgement.
Such 'objective value judgements' are only valid as long as every judgement is made in context to agreeing with the objective standard.

How so? You are very quick to judge things based on unproven claims.
I do not think that is a very good trait to possess.

Absolutely it is.
As long as the old religious mumbo-jumbo is kept personal, and the individual is aware of the mumbo-jumbo-ness... it can be an extremely powerful mental health tool.To say it another way:Irrational concepts sometimes have a way of providing a more powerful impact to some people than rational concepts do.For example, take love:It is possible to have 'objective love' - that is, someone may know their wife will not leave them for another man because of money since their wife was offered another man with lots of money and declined the offer.It is also possible to have 'subjective love' - that is, based on your experiences with another person - you may subjectively decide to love them beyond what the objective information would describe. This can lead to pain, if it ends up being mis-placed. However, it can also lead to great joys if it is continually and always well-placed. Such joys can have unimaginable, or even non-existent, limits - they can be unrestrained and even infinite in strength.It's irrational, but almost always 'stronger' than the rational kind.
It has the possibility for greater pain - but also the possibility for greater heights.
This irrationality can provide a source of mental strength that may not be achievable through rational methods for some (like me.)And, if you are aware and understand the irrationality involved - you can still accept it with all it's possible risks and rewards while also ensuring that this 'irrational acceptance' does not bleed into other areas of your life where irrationality is a known detriment - like attempting to identify "the truth about reality."