Who Made God?

So one side says that God exists and that it is God Who determines the ultimate purpose. The other side (jars side) claims that humans create their own purpose. They create their own gods. They are the arbitrators of reality.

There is no argument about how evidence is defined. If everybody doesn't see it, it isn't evidence. You don't get your own private evidence.What part of your Google Dictionary definition disagrees with that?

Well, no, not quite true if you are honest about it.So one side says that "MY God exists" and that it is "My God" Who determines the ultimate purpose.But there are a brazillion different ideas of who or what "My God" might be or what purpose "My God" determined. The evidence to support each and every "My God" or the "determined by My God purpose to life" are all equally valid and almost always mutually exclusive. Well, no, not quite true if you are honest about it. The other side (jars side) claims that humans create their own purpose(S).Plural. There is no singular purpose that is valid for all mankind rather there are individual purposes and in fact those purposes change and evolve over time. That's just a silly rant Phat. No one is the arbitrator of reality, reality simply is what it is. No one decides what is reality rather reality imposes itself regardless of anyone's beliefs, desires or fantasies.

As a Christian, do you deny that Jesus Christ is the arbitrator of reality? Your answer will provide further insight into your belief.

So are you saying that humanity has to agree before it can be called evidence? But of course that is a Dusty old book compiled by a Brazilian authors, editors, and redactors. And there is far from a consensus as to the accuracy or evident meaning of said book (or books). Maybe you can conjure up Stephen Hawking from the dead...he famously was quoted as saying

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Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist. It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going.

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But Stephen Hawking is Dead and had a great mind but nobody. The Universe also has a great mind. Every knee shall bow someday...either willingly or unwillingly.

Seems to me it doesn't really matter cuz its ultimately non-falsifiable and also non-confirmable in either direction.

I think that question is simply stupid meaningless word salad.AbE:Think Phat. Stop and try to think.My beliefs are totally and completely irrelevant as far as reality is concerned. Reality IS. Reality doesn't give a rats ass what I believe or what I disbelieve. Where I believe Jesus even existed or disbelieve Jesus even existed can have absolutely no effects on whether or not Jesus ever existed in reality.Reality is. Period.Edited by jar, : see AbE:

Arbitrator if reality? WTF does that even mean?

You're obvioulsy not a Christian.

Very true, dredge, and it's hard to believe that no matter how obvious that fact is he insists he's a Christian anyway.

LOL Yet once again, reality trumps ignorance. I am a Christian and a member of an honest recognized chapter of Club Christian.You of course are free to continue to embrace ignorance but that does not change the facts that I am a Christian raised in a Christian family and educated in a Christian school.

Nothing. I think he just likes the patterns and noises the words make in his head.He's obviously slightly off his trolley at the moment, probably spending a lot of time listening to mad pastor videos that he's now trying to ape.

No! I am Christian!

And you both believe that humans made God up and continue to do so. We can safely throw you in this Club over here. Or can we? jar claims to be a believer. Tangle? Just a chap who fishes for a livelihood.

I'm a Christian atheist. As far as I can tell, I have the same moral values as GDR - and I'm baptised. I fish for fun not profit.