I Know That God Does Not Exist

I'd be interested to see the argument expressed in writing. Do you mean that this "hate" originate with Jesus Himself or do you mean that those who called themselves Christians perpetuated and justified hatred and manifest destiny through the use of Christian principles?

yes, I just corrected it. I meant 7th century.

Okay, so what is “the will of my Father”? (Here’s a clue: "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life ... Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son" - John 3:16-18)Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

Sorry, but you're wrong. Your interpretation of this word in this context implies a childishly superficial, uninformed, not to mention illogical, understanding of the Bible. A few verses later (v. 21) God describes himself as "a righteous God". So how can God be both "evil' and "righteous"? And how is that this “evil” God continually condemns and punishes evil, but praises and rewards good throughout the Bible?
The answer is that "evil" in v. 7 is an imperfect translation - it really means "justice" or "punishment". For this reason, many Bibles don't use the word "evil" in this verse - for example, my Bible uses the word "woe", which is better but is still a little misleading.A similarly imperfect and misleading translation is found in the NT, when Jesus says you must "hate" your father and mother. Which Catholic teaching says people who have never heard the Christian message are going to hell? I'm unaware of such a teaching. In fact, I don't know of any Catholic teaching that says "So-and-so is going to hell." The Catholic Church teaches the reality of hell, but as far as I know, doesn't make any official judgements about who is going there. This is because only God knows who is going go hell.Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

My guess is that AZ heard a few things about the Inquisition and certainly knows about Islamic jihad so he blurs it all together and denounces all religion.He has no clue, same as most here, that all over the world as we speak Christians are being persecuted for their faith in Christ. By Musims mostly, but also by Hindus in India. As Dietrich Bonhoeffer put the gospel invitation: "Come to Christ and die." That's our calling. To die for our belief and that includes being persecuted in word, ridicule, scorn etc, and by laws that make living out our biblical belief punishable, and in the case of people in the rest of the world, imprisonment and death. Richard Wurmbrand, a Jewish convert, spent fourteen years in a Rumanian prison cell deep underground for his faith in Christ. Under Ceaucescu. Another Rumanian pastor, Josef Tson, more recently was brought before the police time after time for interrogations that included beatings, and the police on one visit destroyed his whole painstakingly collected library of Christian books. I just happen to know about those two but there are lots more stories elsewhere. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Sorry I wasn't clear. I was speaking in the context of what we believe about God's love and I think we do agree about that. Of course Phat rejects the Trinity and dredge is a Catholic so there are plenty of differences among us.

Try googling the deaths attributed to Communist regimes in the 20th century. Christianity was responsible for the "genocide" of Native Americans? What proof do you have of that?

There is no proof. Since America has been nominally "Christian" anybody who commits any knd of atrocity is a "Christian" according to the know-nothings although there isn't a shred of Christian belief involved.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You obviously have no evidence to back you assertions that communist regimes have killed more in the last century than all Christian wars. Because if you did you would present it.
The claim of Christian genocide of Native Americans is easily evidenced. The European invaders were Christian. Many of them carried out intentional genocide. All others carried out unintentional genocide. Prior to Europeans invading the Americas had a population of at least 100 million and latest scholarship points to over 140 million. What do you think happened to all of those people?
Genocide of indigenous peoples - WikipediaSo any evidence for that communism claim. I can't find anything to support it.

A lot of the genocide was done in the name of christianity. Missions were responsible of millions of dead natives.

Wrong."Minor Crusading efforts lingered into the 14thcentury, and several Crusades were launched during the 14th and 15th centuries to counter the expansion of the Ottoman conquest of the Balkans ... The end of the Crusading in terms of at least nominal efforts by Catholic Europe against Muslim incursion, came in the 16thcentury"
(Wikipedia, "Crusades")Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

"a few here and there"? What planet are you on? Atheist regimes are easily the worst killers in history:"Although any attempt to estimate a total number of killings under Communist regimes depends greatly on definitions,[30]several attempts to compile previously published data have been made:
* According to R. J. Rummel's book Death by Government (1994), about 110 million people, foreign and domestic, were killed by Communist democide from 1900 to 1987.[31] In 1993, Rummel wrote: "Even were we to have total access to all communist archives we still would not be able to calculate precisely how many the communists murdered. Consider that even in spite of the archival statistics and detailed reports of survivors, the best experts still disagree by over 40 percent on the total number of Jews killed by the Nazis. We cannot expect near this accuracy for the victims of communism. We can, however, get a probable order of magnitude and a relative approximation of these deaths within a most likely range".[18]
* In his introduction to the Black Book of Communism (1999), Stéphane Courtois gave a "rough approximation, based on unofficial estimates" approaching 100 million killed.[o] In his foreword to the book, Martin Malia noted "a grand total of victims variously estimated by contributors to the volume at between 85 million and 100 million".[p]
* According to Benjamin Valentino in 2005, the number of non-combatants killed by Communist regimes in the Soviet Union, People's Republic of China and Cambodia alone ranged from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.[q][r] Citing Rummel and others, Valentino stated that the "highest end of the plausible range of deaths attributed to communist regimes" was up to 110 million".[q][s]
* In his book Red Holocaust (2010), Steven Rosefielde said that Communism's internal contradictions "caused to be killed" approximately 60 million people and perhaps tens of millions more.[32]
* In 2011, Matthew White published his rough total of 70 million "people died under communist regimes from execution, labor camps, famine, ethnic cleansing, and desperate flight in leaky boats", not counting those killed in wars.[t]
* In 2016, the Dissident blog of the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation made an effort to compile updated ranges of estimates and concluded that the overall range "spans from 42,870,000 to 161,990,000" killed, with 100 million the most commonly cited figure.[u]
* In 2017, Professor Stephen Kotkin wrote in The Wall Street Journal that Communism killed at least 65 million people between 1917 and 2017: "Though communism has killed huge numbers of people intentionally, even more of its victims have died from starvation as a result of its cruel projects of social engineering.""
(Wikipedia, "Mass killing under communist regimes")Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

Apparently, Jesus said "Hate your neighbour"

That is an equivocation of the term. Also from the Wikipedia source.

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The Crusades were a series of religious wars sanctioned by the Latin Church in the medieval period. The most commonly known Crusades are the campaigns in the Eastern Mediterranean aimed at recovering the Holy Land from Muslim rule, but the term "Crusades" is also applied to other church-sanctioned campaigns. These were fought for a variety of reasons including the suppression of paganism and heresy, the resolution of conflict among rival Roman Catholic groups, or for political and territorial advantage

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Common use of the term Crusades has to do with conquering the holy land. But if you want this technicality then you have it. Good for you.

You are part way there
Now you just have to find a number for the number of people killed in Christian wars and show that that figure is far, far lower.
I dont think you can do that. 10 million died in just the 30 Years War alone.Edited by Theodoric, : Subtitle change