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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Theo is making it seem as if Christians can do no right
If christians want to take responsibility for all the good they have done, they must also take responsibility for the destruction they have caused.It is funny how we hear all the great things christians have done and if any christian does good things christians hail how wonderful their religion is. But if any christian does evil, crickets. We either hear they were not real christians or the fact that they were christian has nothing to do with anything. ABEThis should be the first sentence. It will not show. IS it only not showing on my view? If christians want to take responsibility for all the good they have done, they must also take responsibility for the destruction they have caused. Edited by Theodoric, : Post again cut off Edited by Theodoric, : Again post cut off Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given. Edited by Theodoric, : final try to get all of post to show Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
You are a troll.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Natives gave Europeans Syphilis
That is just one hypothesis. Science does not know the origin of syphilis. It could have originated in the Americas. No one knows.History of syphilis - Wikipedia Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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If christians want to take responsibility for all the good they have done, they must also take responsibility for the destruction they have caused. It is funny how we hear all the great things christians have done and if any christian does good things christians hail how wonderful their religion is. But if any christian does evil, crickets. We either hear they were not real christians or the fact that they were christian has nothing to do with anything. My only criticism was that its always best not to treat groups as a homogenized unit - especially one so large and diverse. There's a ton of destruction sowed under the banner of Islam, but it would be unfair to lay every misdeed at the feet of every single Muslim considering most did not participate or condone the actions of others. That same rule applies to Christianity. Dredge, however, sounds like a complete cunt and is very much deserving of the personal criticism he's so richly earned. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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My only criticism was that its always best not to treat groups as a homogenized unit - especially one so large and diverse.
Agreed. That is the point I am trying to make. Refer back to the original post of his that I am responding to.
Message 674Dredge writes: Then there is the fact that atheist (read: Communist) regimes killed far, far more people in just one century that all the Christian wars in history put together. I do not blame all christians for native genocide throughout the world. I also do not specifically blame christian religions. The christian religion was a tool used by the elites to expand and exploit commercial interests. Churches were a willing tool. But as I said. People cannot just take credit for any good their ingroup does, and then turn around ignore all the bad. Edited by Theodoric, : reworded last sentence Edited by Theodoric, : subtitle changeFacts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Which Catholic teaching says people who have never heard the Christian message are going to hell? I'm unaware of such a teaching.
That is not what Tangle said is it?Lets look at what Tangle actually said. Tangle writes:
Do you see that?"not persuaded by" the punishment of being condemned to everlasting flames if you're nor persuaded by - or haven't even heard of - a stone age myth is just plain idiotic. Is There Really "No Salvation Outside the Catholic Church?" | Catholic Answers
quote: Those not persuaded by catholic teaching are condemned to hell according to catholic teaching. Edited by Theodoric, : spellingFacts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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People cannot just take credit for any good their ingroup does, and then turn around ignore all the bad. That's a fair point, especially with the Hitlerian fervor that Dredge is pushing... guy sounds like Mel Gibson at a Holocaust memorial. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
One of our members has this in his signature:
Okay, so what is “the will of my Father”?quote:The will of your Father is for you to do justly, love mercy and walk humbly with your God. Dredge writes:
You should follow that clue a little further. What does it mean to "believe"? Here’s a clue: "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.... Are you a True Believer if you mouth "Lord! lLord!"
quote:Apparently not. quote:And quote:The ones who inherit the kingdom - i.e. the real believers - are the ones who feed the hungry, etc. not the ones who only profess belief. All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
What? ringo writes:
Uh huh. Lets how about I??? fOCUS. Eating the fruit made Adam and Eve more like God. He said so Himself.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Are you suggesting that we should measure righteousness by body count? Try googling the deaths attributed to Communist regimes in the 20th century.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8562 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Well ranted, Little AntiChrist! Thank you, Oh spawn of Satan.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8562 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Oh, I nearly forgot ... as well as the hundreds of millions killed by Communism ... More justification for your Christian slaughter. You just love showing your evil. Keep going. You do more to advance atheism than a dedicated little antichrist could ever hope to accomplish.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I don't think you've said anywhere what you mean by "Christian slaughter." If you have would you please link to it and if you haven't would you please explain what you mean.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I certainly don't agree with dredge about many things, because he is a Catholic, but I also don't see what you are talking about when you say he's pushing "Hitlerian fervor." Could you please explain.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 101 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Theodoric writes:
According to your Darwinist belief-system, the demise of the native Americans is an example of evolution in action. The unfit perish and the fit proliferate; the weak give way to the strong. Darwinism says this is a natural process that's been operating with great success for billions of years. So why are you complaining about and opposing the progress of nature? And why are you opposing your own belief-system? Are you a fake evolutionist?
Prior to Europeans invading the Americas had a population of at least 100 million and latest scholarship points to over 140 million. What do you think happened to all of those people?
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