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Sarah Bellum
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Message 192 of 560 (852391)
05-09-2019 7:48 PM


Most non-religious people I've met go with the usual, "believe what you want, it's just not for me," but Hitchens actively promoted the idea that religion itself was a bad thing.
His stance was something like, "Good people do good things, bad people do bad things, but in order to get good people to do bad things, religion may be necessary." I don't say that's a quote from him, just a sense of how he felt.

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Message 225 of 560 (855969)
06-25-2019 9:01 AM
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05-09-2019 9:39 PM


Thanks

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Message 226 of 560 (855970)
06-25-2019 9:06 AM
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05-09-2019 10:45 PM


Fascinating, the idea of a deity or cleric in the role of Milgram's lab-coat wearing torturer!

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Message 227 of 560 (875030)
04-13-2020 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Portillo
12-16-2011 6:04 AM


On the other hand, if there really is an afterlife, and a god, Hitchens will probably go to heaven for the good works he has done and all those bible-thumping bigots and kaffiyah wearing terrorists and boy-abusing priests and ..
.. will all be burning in hell.
If heaven, hell or god actually exist. Which there is no evidence for.

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Message 229 of 560 (875125)
04-14-2020 6:32 PM
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04-13-2020 2:08 PM


This is all rather illogical. Someone born in 100 BCE couldn't know Jesus, so couldn't be saved. OK, then, you say that people before Jesus are allowed to go to heaven based on their adherence to the faith that existed before Jesus. So why can't people now go to heaven if they adhere to that old faith, for example, if they are Jewish? Or consider someone born in the year 1000 CE but in a place like Japan or South America where news of Jesus hadn't yet arrived. Could they go to heaven? Seems a bit unfair if they can't, doesn't it? Even nowadays there are plenty of places where people aren't really "exposed" to Christianity; probably plenty of tribal villages with no preachers and no bibles. Are those people still eligible for heaven? If they are, but Hitchens isn't, you've got an irrational religious system there!

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