Who Made God?

You gad and I gad your gadding.

I have met Jesus - exactly the same way as you have. I have also met Long John Silver and Tom Joad and Holden Caulfield. The question you should be asking is, "If something is not evident, how can you know whether it exists or not?"

How to Cook Forty Humans.I think I prefer my own made-up purpose.

There is no argument about how evidence is defined. If everybody doesn't see it, it isn't evidence. You don't get your own private evidence.What part of your Google Dictionary definition disagrees with that?

You don't have to take a poll of 7 billion people but yes, there has to be agreement. You can not, for example, use your feelings of spooks crawling around in your head as evidence. You can't use Hebrews 11 as your sole definition of evidence. Remember that the KJV was wrtiiten several centuries ago when our ideas about scientific evidence and even judicial evidence were very different. The NIV, for example, uses the word "assurance" instead. The ASV, the ESV and the RSV use "conviction". Don't forget that I am the one who respects the dusty old book and you are the one who throws out the parts you don't like. Exactly.

What I'm telling Phat is that the meaning of the word "evidence" has changed in four hundred years. The translators who produced the King James Version could not possibly have known how we would use the word four hundred years later. Which is why no translation is reliable in the first place. There are copyright laws covering the new translations but there is no copyright on the corrupt Greek texts. The whole point being that the words used in modern translations are not synonymous with the modern use of "evidence".

Arbitrator and creator are not the same thing. In fact, the creator could be dead and somebody else could be the current arbitrator.

You're shooting yourself in the foot. Jabberwocky is nonsense to everybody. Nobody believes it's "true". Nobody's brain is wired to believe it.

I wouldn't even set foot in a showroom that didn't let me leave without buying something.

Your claims of his existence mean nothing.

*shrug* Who cares what you believe? This is a discussion forum. Discuss something.

Why do people chase any false idol, like Jesus? If we realize it's a false idol, why wouldn't we stop loving it and desiring it? That's what your false idol Jesus told you to do. The government is a representative of society. Yes, your false idol Jesus told you to take care of your society and your society will take care of you. If your government is not standing up for your society properly, it's time to do something about your government.

It isn't a belief. It's a fact that claims alone have no value. Claims have to have something to back them up. But all you're doing is saying it. That's another claim with no value. Why don't you actually think about it and explain how I'm wrong?

"Nuh uh," is not an argument. And vice versa. Even if every word I said was wrong, it doesn't make you right.In fact, many times you are objectively wrong - but you try to defend your subjective position anyway. No wonder it's so hard to come up with an argument of substance.

What qualifies you to ask?

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Matthew 7:7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

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i.e. it isn't up to you to decide.If you want a first approximation:

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Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

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