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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
You have a warped sense of what evil is. I only h a y t e evll.quote:Calling love between two people evil is evil. All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Odd that I haven't said anything like that then.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
You should be clearer then. To me, and to a lot of people here, I'm sure, your raving against same-sex marriage sounds exactly like you're calling it evil. Odd that I haven't said anything like that then.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Same sex marriage violates God's law but how have I been "raving" against it? I just keep having to say over and over again that it is being used to try to force Christians to disobey God. Where's the "raving?" And marriage isn't people, it's an institution so you are out of bounds to claim I'm raving against people.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
We've been through that many times. "God's law" regarding homosexuality is no different from "God's law" regarding shellfish or mixed fabrics. If you're going to stand up against homosexuality, you have to stand up against Red Lobster and Sears too.
Same sex marriage violates God's law... Faith writes:
Posting in all caps is practically the definition of raving.
... how have I been "raving" against it? Faith writes:
Posting nonsense over and over again doesn't turn it into sense.
I just keep having to say over and over again.... Faith writes:
Nonsense. Marriage is an agreement between two (or possibly more) people. You are raving against that agreement being recognized by the government. And marriage isn't people, it's an institution so you are out of bounds to claim I'm raving against people.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yes we've been through it and you don't get to tell someone else what to believe. You are as perverse a hayter as AZ.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8552 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
There wouldn't be any civil rights at all, any generally peaceful civilized life, any sense of shared community, any trust between people, any of the good things you take for granted in America, if christians had their way. (emphisis mine) We managed to have all this and more despite your violent christian objections. And we can have all these things because we ignore you and your god now. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
I haven't told you what to believe. I've just pointed out that what you believe is nonsensical, unscriptural and unchristlike. You can believe that God has pink polka-dots for all I care but you're not going to get away with claiming it's Biblical. Yes we've been through it and you don't get to tell someone else what to believe.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
And you don't get to tell me my beliefs are nonsensical, unscriptural, unchristlike and unbiblical. Sorry, they are what Christians act on and get punished for by this law that requires us to accept gay marriage. Which is what you are doing too.l
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
All you'll get without Christianity is another phascist/communist ttotalitarian regime that will turn America into a third world slum. You really don't understand anything about history.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
God ordained marriage as the union between male and female as one flesh. Redefine it all you want, try to force us to accept your definition, but God's definition is the one believers must obey.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8552 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
... but God's definition is the one believers must obey. Fine. Obey. Then let the rest of us alone.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
... but God's definition is the one believers must obey. Fine. Obey.Then let the rest of us alone. Are you pretending not to get this? I'd rather not have to keep arguing this but you keep misrepresenting it in such a way that I have to. Leave the rest of you alone? Do you really not get that Christians haven't been doing anything to anybody but then this law came along and gays made an issue of it with Christian business owners and then sued them for doing exactly what you want them to do: "Obey...then leave the rest of us alone." You really don't get this? You really don't see that the aggression is on the side of gays and the law that put Christians in this position of being criminalized? Really? I don't get why you keep talking about it this way, it's so clear that the Christians have done absolutely nothing and the whole thing has been imposed on them. We'd LOVE to "leave you all alone," and were doing just that when this law came along and gays came to Christian businesses to require them to disobey God and serve a gay wedding. You really don't see this? Really?\
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8552 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
See Message 609
Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Alas, there is no specifics. There is only this one story in a tabloid paper. There is absolutely nothing else on this story. Nothing. You claim to follow science, what would you think of a data point that had no corroboration. All other news articles point back to this original story. If such a thing was true I would think there would be a lot more sources.
Find me specifics of the case that corroborates this story and I might give it some credence, until then it is just a story.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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