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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
Why does this have to be like pulling teeth? We were talking about partial birth abortions. 20 weeks is nowhere near birth. The article says, "In a widely-publicized interview with The New York Times in 1997, Ron Fitzsimmons, executive director of the National Coalition of Abortion Providers, estimated that in the majority of cases, the procedure is performed on a healthy mother and healthy fetus that is 20 weeks or more along in development." I'll get out the vise-grips and try one more time: Is there such a thing as an abortion of a healthy fetus at 39 weeks? That's the only question you're being asked here.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
Yes I do. And you don't get to tell me my beliefs are nonsensical, unscriptural, unchristlike and unbiblical. Just like you get to tell me I'm an evil leftist liar. But I can show the lurkers that I am not an evil leftist liar. You could hypothetically show the lurkers that your beliefs are not nonsensical, unscriptural, unchristlike and unbiblical - if they weren't. But they are.
Faith writes:
No law forces you to accept gay marriage. The law prescribes what happens if you don't behave in a socially-responsible way. Sorry, they are what Christians act on and get punished for by this law that requires us to accept gay marriage. Your beliefs are entirely your own, no matter how stupid they are, Nobody can force you to accept reality or to be a decent human being. But we will sanction you if you act badly.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
No He didn't. You have never been able to back up that claim scripturally. God ordained marriage as the union between male and female as one flesh.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Sarah Bellum writes:
So what?
... although public support for legal abortion is quite high, substantial numbers think favorably of partial-birth abortion bans, so in thinking such laws are "dictatorial" there are many who disagree with you. Sarah Bellum writes:
Nonsense. I oppose anti-abortion laws because they're dictatorial. Power over a person's body is about as total as it can get, so I definitely stand by the word "dictatorial". You might disagree with whether or not such laws should be passed (I personally think they should not be), but calling them "dictatorial" and comparing them to forcing "somebody to carry around an unwanted (and potentially dangerous) body part" is clearly abuse of language.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
What part of "healthy" do you not understand? I keep asking for an example of a god damn healthy fetus being aborted at 39 weeks and you keep posting the same thing over and over again about a severely disabled fetus.
All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
And "we all" seem to understand the meaning of "dictatorial" - except you. Yes, we're all aware that you stand by your story.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
So mistakes are made. Are you going to ban heart surgery because it doesn't always work? "One doctor reported that on some occasions a wrong diagnosis had been given and the dead foetus was found to have no disability" It's becoming pretty obvious that "partial-birth abortion" is a lie.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
And like I said, nobody but you is objecting to my story. I can assure you that there are plenty of people around here who wouldn't hesitate to point it out if I was wrong. Like I said, you're standing by your story.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
vimesey writes:
If you can suggest a better word, I'll be glad to use it. Can we please be very careful with the term “healthy”, when it is applied in relation to disability.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Sarah Bellum writes:
Yes, your inability to provide examples of partial-birth abortions has always been an answer to the question. It's not as conclusive as you openly admitting that it's a lie, but it will do. I'll take that as an acknowledgement that your question has been answered.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
That doesn't follow at all. If millions of people agree that the trains should run on time, that doesn't mean Mussolini was not a dictator. Since you have agreed that substantial numbers of people agree that restrictions on late-term abortions are reasonable, your statement "nobody but you" about your use of the word "dictatorial" is incorrect. But you're dishonest as well as wrong. I was refering to people HERE on EvC not objecting to my use of the word "dictatorial". Edited by ringo, : No reason given.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
vimesey writes:
So we're talking about a fetus with special needs? With additional or special needs is fine.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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