"Best" evidence for evolution.

See Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1 for more reasons that the YEC timetable is wrong.Enjoy

A self-serving assumption that is invalidated by SN1987A ... see Falsifying a young Universe. (re: Supernova 1987A), particularly Message 238Enjoy

Except that 3 living trees are over 4800 years old, with one of which is over 5,000 years old (The Age of the Earth (version 3 no 1 part 1), Message 3), ... with no sign of a flood disturbing their growth ...... and that two bristlecone pine dendrochronologies extend further into the past, showing that (Message 8):

1. The earth is at least 8,309 years old (2019) by the combined Methuselah/Schulman Master bristlecone pine Chronology.
2. The "long tree ring chronology for bristlecone pine ... developed independently of previous work" agreed with the master chronology:
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   The difference found was that two rings were missing from the second chronology and they matched two rings in the older chronology that were narrow growth rings rather than extra rings. The new chronology did not extend the age of the old chronology, but it did validate and strengthen the Master absolute Bristlecone pine dendrochronology from 1970 CE through 3,435 BCE.

An error of 2 years in 5404 years of overlap is a remarkable high 99.963% accuracy. This gives us high confidence in the master chronology. There is no evidence of any flood disrupting the growth or the area, with many of the samples used found lying on the ground.Plus there are two European oak chronologies:

1. The Irish oak chronology (Message 10), confirming that the earth is at least 7,307 years old (2019), and
2. The German oak chronology (Message 11), showing that the earth is at least 10,039 years old (2019)

The final result is a combined Irish and German Oak chronology with a high degree of confidence in the accuracy and precision of this Combined European Oak Chronology. The mean difference between the Irish Oak Chronology and the German Oak Chronology was <10 (Message 16) which extends the age of the earth even further into the past by absolute annual tree ring counts :The earth is at least 12,479 years old (2019)There was no major catastrophic event that would have disturbed the growth of any of the overlapping trees -- ie no catastrophic flood occurred in this time as the wood samples were not moved nor were there any gaps in the data.There is further evidence of an older earth by the counting of annual layers (see rest of The Age of the Earth (version 3 no 1 part 1)) and (The Age of the Earth (version 3 no 1 part 2) Message 9), show the earth is at least 808,010 years old (2019) by the EPICA Dome C (EDC) data.Annual counts that are not disrupted by any catastrophic event, including a purported world wide flood.YEC beliefs about the age of the earth are totally at odds with reality. What else are they wrong about? TOTALLY BOGUS. WOW. LOL. That's a kicker!Note that air conditioners generate more heat than cold, meaning a net heat gain, but more to the point the ice ages were not caused by great heat. Reality doesn't work that way. This is bogus fantasy at it's finest!!!EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : .

With no evidence of a population bottleneck in all species at that time, no evidence of hyperfast evolution of existing species (especially beetles) from the preserved created "kinds" either in the fossil record or in the genetic record.It's as if God/s big joke is to make everything both look old and match what evolution would look like while hiding the evidence of creation and a massive flood.Sounds more like Loki ...EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : .

As will the fish, etc., that need fresh water when the salt water is mixed in. Plus all that silt ...Enjoy

Getting to the ark is irrelevant, getting from the ark, sorting into all the different isolated biogeographic locations today, without leaving any trace in other locations.IE - not just koalas, but the eucalyptus trees they exclusively feed on.Why are grassland feeders divided up by biogeographic locations instead of sharing all grassland areas.Why are predators divided up by biogeographic locations instead of sharing all areas filled with prey.Isolation of these areas over long periods of time while the species evolve explains this.Enjoy

Then there's the curious case of grasslands and the eaters of grasslands and the predators of grassand herbivores:

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Grasslands, explained

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Savanna, steppe, prairie, or pampas: They're all grasslands, the globe's most agriculturally useful habitats.

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Grasslands go by many names. In the U.S. Midwest, they're often called prairies. In South America, they're known as pampas. Central Eurasian grasslands are referred to as steppes, while African grasslands are savannas. What they all have in common are grasses, their naturally dominant vegetation. Grasslands are found where there is not enough regular rainfall to support the growth of a forest, but not so little that a desert forms. In fact, grasslands often lie between forests and deserts. (See grassland photos.)

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Depending on how they’re defined, grasslands account for between 20 and 40 percent of the world's land area. They are generally open and fairly flat, and they exist on every continent except Antarctica, ...

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Humans have introduced cattle and sheep to all these grasslands, and they thrive. The question is: why are the pre-human grassland herbivores different in the different grasslands around the world if they all came off the ark and spread to the grasslands available when they could live in any of the grasslands?Likewise the predators of the grassland herbivores also are divided geographically as well: why are the pre-human grassland predators different in the different grasslands around the world if they all came off the ark and spread to the grasslands available when they could live off the herbivores in any of the grasslands?Why are there no gazelles and cheetahs in Australia or the Americas?Why are there no kangaroos in Africa or the Americas?Why are there no wolves^{^(1)} or cougars in Australia?Why are there no Bisons and grey wolves^{^(2)} in Argentina?Why are there no llamas in North America when there are cougars in North and South America?So many questions.Why is the biogeographic diversity sorted the way it is around the world if all the animals in the world came off the ark and distributed themselves according to their habitat needs?This is just the tip of the iceberg of predator prey relationships in similar habitats in different parts of the world.Monkeys, snakes, pigs, bobcats, etc etc etcEvolution and biogeography history explain it.Can creationists explain it in as consistent and credible a manner?Enjoy^{^(1)} -- the thylacine was relatively shy and nocturnal, with the general appearance of a medium-to-large-size dog, except for its stiff tail and abdominal pouch similar to a kangaroo, and dark transverse stripes that radiated from the top of its back, reminiscent of a tiger. The thylacine was a formidable apex predator,[4] -- not found in the Americas or Africa.^{^(2)} -- the maned wolf (Chrysocyon brachyurus) is the largest canid of South America.[4] Its markings resemble those of foxes, but it is neither a fox nor a wolf. It is the only species in the genus Chrysocyon (meaning "golden dog") -- not found in Australia, North America or Africa.Edited by RAZD, : .Edited by RAZD, : ..

As I recall, Faith believes that all current species have devolved from a universal donor species that carried copies of all the genomes of the species in their Kind (clade) ... through the loss of all the non-today species genomes.So koalas from one Poppa & Momma Wombat/Koala/marsupial lions/etc on the ark ...... after the breakup (which only took days) became koalas ...... and wombats ...... and marsupial lions ...So it could probably run like the wind and eat anything in its way ...Isn't fantasy wonderful?Enjoy

Tell me where I'm wrong.All species today are descendants of the created kinds -- cats, dogs, bears, etc. etc.Evolution only occurs via loss of genetic materialErgo the original created kinds had all the genes of all their descendants before they were lostEnjoy

So I was right in Message 175Thanks

To me they say the same thing: What do you see that is different?Curious.

See discussion on Trilobites, Mountains and Marine Deposits - Evidence of a flood?Enjoy

That's okay Faith. Nothing provides better evidence of the validity of evolution that watching a creationist try to prove otherwise.The best evidence for evolution is the spacial-temporal matrix showing the connectivity in time and space of the evolutionary lineages. Motive, means, and opportunity. Fossils are "arranged" ("sorted") by geological age and by proximity to near relatives.EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : .

Not just at the right time but also in the right place -- located where predecessors and descendant fossils exist, thus showing opportunity existed. This is why the spatial-temporal matrix is such a powerful validation for the ToE.Enjoy

In the beginning there was only one genome, or as scientists call it ... DNA. Modifications to the DNA make all the variations known for life on earth to exist.Enjoy