General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List')

Message 205That she is claiming that Sigmunds post Message 204 seems crazy to me.The OP clearly mentions founders. That would mean a look at what the founders meant and what influenced them should be very on topic. We can not look at the question of whether the US is a Christian nation without looking at the historical background. To think we could is just ridiculous.William Penn and the Pennsylvania Colony were presented by a poster as evidence showing the US was founded as a christian nation. This argument should not be considered off topic. It seems crazy to me that it could be considered off topic. Sigmunds response goes directly toward dispelling the reasoning behind the argument.

1. True but your warning seemed to giving him leeway from the declaration because he is a new member.
2. See above
3. Are you serious?
Lets look at what Sigmund quoted. Destroying an essential part of the argument destroys the argument. Sigmundd was pointing out that this part of his argument fails. To see the association without Sigmund actually saying it does not take a very large leap of logic.
4.The obvious at times does not need to be expressed. Exactly but Sigmunds post wasn't any old discussion about founders was it. It was a direct refutation of JZ's unhinged arguments. I didn't realize one had to be a participant of an argument to point out what one sees as a problem with moderation. So I am not to follow discussions I am not directly participating in? You seem to have some odd expectations. I am sure he is also. I am not bringing this up for him but to point out overzealousness of moderation that will damper the debate on a very interesting thread. The historical threads are of great interest to me, I have not posted because other members are doing a great job showing the failure of JZ's arguments. It isn't fun shooting fish in a barrel.If you want me to participate more before I make comments about moderation I will do so.In actuality his edit to make it AdminPD acceptable actually seems to take away from the substance of his post.

Guess it is like an FBI file. I probably have a thread too.I wonder if Percy has a FOIA procedure.

That should tell you something about your viewpoint. Like maybe you should open your mind and really look at the facts. You should learn to vet your sources.Vetting is a very important thing for any source. Vet - to appraise, verify, or check for accuracy, authenticity, validity, etc.:

Goes to show Moose's moderating.Percy gives 24 hrs to BD for the same thing Moose gives Oni a week.Again evidence that the Evo side is held to a much higher standard. Unfair standard but higher, guess we got that going for us.Edited by Theodoric, : So used to Dr A getting suspended wrote that instead of Oni

Moose responds to a science person in a heavy handed manner again. This whole different requirement for standards of behavior for science types versus creos/fundie/idists is still bullshit.The creos/fundie/idists crowd can sling around insults, continually post meaningless crap and nothing gets said to them. Latest continuing examples are Faith, as always, and ED67, who is particularly abusive.Did Capt Stormfield deserve a reprimand or slight suspension? Probably. Did it warrant a week? Come on. Moderation must be even handed or it is just random personal attacks.I know this will never change. Moose will continue to lash out willy-nilly when he feels his sensibilities are insulted, but I needed to comment.

But name calling is easier than presenting a substantive argument

As we are not allowed to comment on the other thread. I will repost hereDavid Jay is the worst, most egregious liar we have had here in a long time. He makes other creos look like virtues of truth. This is not a perfect world and debate sites do attract liars. When the mods refuse to enforce rules for a certain subset, their behaviour will continue to devolve. Making up facts, changing arguments in midstream and claiming other posters said something other than what they actually said, are all forms of lying.
Dr. A is not the problem. He is doing the only reasonable thing to do when confronted with a member as dishonest as DavidJay. If mods will not call out the lying it is up to the members.Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Well just more evidence that the trolls Faith and Dredge, are moderated differently than the non-fundies. Typical.

You can be a real asshole at times. This is one of them.

That you would come to this conclusion from my comment and state this shows your inherent bias. That you would tell me to hug a tree also shows the bias you as a moderator have against people that disagree with you.
I have made it clear in the past and I still maintain you are a very poor and biased moderator.

I hugged three today.
In all seriousness I did plant two today.

I tore them from their homeland and carried them against their will to their new home.Truth be known they were probably going to die when the house they were near gets torn down next week. Thought it was better than risking them being killed by machinery.