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Theodoric
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Message 2442 of 5796 (857761)
07-11-2019 7:59 AM
Reply to: Message 2438 by Hyroglyphx
07-11-2019 12:17 AM


Re: Bill is no liberal figurehead
Read the subtitle. Liberal and Progressive do not mean Democratic and vice versa. That is my point. Go ahead attack the Clinton's. Claim they should be arrested without any evidence. Actual liberals and progressives will support them as much as anyone else accused without evidence. No more. No less. It is really funny having a right winger telling me, a left progressive, what the progressive sacred cows and beliefs are. Dont mind if I dont take your right wing, misogynistic, racist, unpatriotic arguments seriously.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2443 of 5796 (857764)
07-11-2019 8:04 AM
Reply to: Message 2441 by jar
07-11-2019 7:51 AM


Re: Anglagard's wonderfully fair and peaceable reaching out to evangelicals
Silly and misogynistic. I am sure he believes that Black Lives Matter is anti- American too.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Message 2447 of 5796 (857780)
07-11-2019 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 2445 by JonF
07-11-2019 9:57 AM


Re: Bill is no liberal figurehead
I find it funny that he claims he is not alt-right.
If you push alt-right arguments, when you talk like the alt-right, when you attack women, minorities, when you make unsubstantiated claims about antifa, you might be alt-reich.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2448 of 5796 (857782)
07-11-2019 10:46 AM


And again we see accusations against antifa do not stand up to scrutiny.
quote:
Portland city officials have spent the past week distancing themselves from a June 29 warning issued by the Portland Police Bureau on Twitter that leftist protesters might have mixed quick-drying cement with vegan milkshakes.
Is It Possible to Mix Cement Into a Vegan Milkshake? We Did It.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

  
Theodoric
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Message 2451 of 5796 (857790)
07-11-2019 12:41 PM
Reply to: Message 2450 by Hyroglyphx
07-11-2019 12:17 PM


Re: Bill is no liberal figurehead
I do more for women in crisis on a daily basis than you have in your entire life. I do more for minorities on a daily basis than you have your entire life.
Classic wing nut protestations of innocence.
You know nothing about me. Do not dare pretend to know anything about what I have done in my life. Your claims of righteousness mean nothing. Do not dare claim to know more about minorities and how they are treated on a daily basis more than I do. Because unless you live it you know nothing.
I am not going to get in to a who's dick is bigger contest with you. That you want to have one tells me a lot.
In your very extreme Left version of liberalism, anything not that far to the Left is naturally Alt-Right to you.
I just love when people destroy their own argument when they act exactly like what they accuse others of acting like. You might want to try some self-awareness.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2452 of 5796 (857792)
07-11-2019 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 2449 by JonF
07-11-2019 11:00 AM


Re: Bill is no liberal figurehead
hyro writes:
I'm not Alt-Right
Message 2439
If it quacks like a duck and it walks like a duck.
He seems to think that since he has criticized Trump he can not be alt-right.
I guess maybe he doesn't identify as alt-right but he supports a lot if not most of their positions.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2456 of 5796 (857802)
07-11-2019 1:48 PM
Reply to: Message 2453 by JonF
07-11-2019 12:59 PM


Re: Trump bamboozled for the nth tome
Great business man. Great negotiator. I think not. What a loser.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2463 of 5796 (857838)
07-11-2019 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 2458 by Hyroglyphx
07-11-2019 5:02 PM


Re: Bill is no liberal figurehead
Ok have I defended antifa? I have just not attacked them with false accusations.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2464 of 5796 (857839)
07-11-2019 11:23 PM
Reply to: Message 2458 by Hyroglyphx
07-11-2019 5:02 PM


Re: Bill is no liberal figurehead
It isn't an ad hominem if your arguments support my claim. I am not attacking you, I am attacking the arguments you have made. If you have a problem with that, maybe you need to reexamine the arguments you have made.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2469 of 5796 (857996)
07-14-2019 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 2468 by JonF
07-13-2019 10:37 AM


Re: Bill is no liberal figurehead
Classic right wing mindset.
"Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up."

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Message 2475 of 5796 (858116)
07-16-2019 6:08 PM
Reply to: Message 2472 by Hyroglyphx
07-16-2019 2:25 AM


Re: Bill is no liberal figurehead
The only reason she wasn't hanged and quartered was because there's no reason to assume it was done with deliberate intention of harming the US, but rather, that she's simply a moron.
No. The reason is she did not break the law. If she did do you not think the myriad investigations would have found something? You post lots of accusations but no evidence. I guess your judgment holds more weight than the Republican congress that found nothing.
hat you shift the goalposts because it wasn't at her house but was hacked at the DNC is completely moot.
You did not just move the goal posts you changed the game.
literally the head honcho in charge of the entire intelligence services and armed forces apparatus....
Not true is it?
using AT&T servers
So now it is At&T servers? Do you think she was hacked more or less than US government servers?
And this hack, by the way, was also how we now know there was a conspiracy to oust Bernie Sanders by the DNC in favor of Clinton.
We are talking about Hillary's server not the DNC's. Or is strawman arguments all you have?
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2478 of 5796 (858190)
07-18-2019 9:43 AM
Reply to: Message 2476 by LamarkNewAge
07-18-2019 12:58 AM


Re: Talk about threats to democracy. (hint: it is not You Tube ads)
The fact that the primary calendar was designed to ensure a huge Clinton advantage (over Sanders) was a much bigger deal than Russian ads.
What is the evidence for this assertion?
Are you a LaRouche follower? LOL. He was a nutball. I really think his crazy conspiracy theories helped the rise of Trumpism.
Had Larouche actually gotten 50% in Michigan (2000 Democratic primary), instead of 41%, the election would have been thrown out.
Not sure where this disinformation came from but it isn't true. First of all, Michigan did not have a primary in 2000. They held a caucus. Laoruche got less than 1% support. The GOP did hold a Primary that year. Any votes he received in the Primary did not matter as that was not the way to get state delegates.
https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=26&yea...
Virginia LaRouche delegates were thrown out in 1996, and the courts allowed it to be done by the party (the elections were not under United States legal requirements but are a "private party affair" or something)
You make it sound like he had a chance. He had one delegate from Virginia and one from Louisiana. Do you not think a political party should determine who is a member of that party. Especially when that person has beliefs counter to that party?
quote:
In the 1996 Democratic Party presidential primaries, he received enough votes in Louisiana and Virginia to get one delegate from each state, but before the primaries began, the Democratic National Committee chair, Donald Fowler, ruled that LaRouche was not a "bona fide Democrat" because of his "expressed political beliefs ... which are explicitly racist and anti-Semitic," and because of his "past activities, including exploitation of and defrauding contributors and voters." Fowler instructed state parties to disregard votes for LaRouche
Lyndon LaRouche - Wikipedia
Oh yeah he committed massive fraud and was a convicted felon. No wonder they did not want him in the party.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2480 of 5796 (858197)
07-18-2019 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 2479 by JonF
07-18-2019 10:02 AM


Re: Bill is no liberal figurehead
You would think that someone that has made veiled claims of being involved in some sort of government security or military work would understand basic things like this.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2488 of 5796 (859806)
08-03-2019 10:43 AM
Reply to: Message 2485 by LamarkNewAge
07-21-2019 11:07 PM


2000 Michigan primary results are meaningless
Of the primary which was not official. The democratic primary meant nothing, so the vast majority of Democrats would not have bothered to vote in it. Long before the primary the Democratic party announced that they were going to use a caucus to determine who would win the states delegates. If LaRouche had 100% of primary vote it would still be meaningless.
Why would voters in a primary that they knew had no meaning? The only candidate that had votes in that election was Larouche. There were only 44k total Democratic votes in this primary. In the general Al Gore received over 2 million votes, do you really think 13k votes for LaRouche in meaningless primary shows some sort of conspiracy against Larouche.
REMEMBER, the primary votes did not count. The decision to go with a caucus was made on 5/8/1999. Everyone knew that the primary meant nothing. Also, you claimed he received 41%. 4129.
Edited by Theodoric, : New subtitle

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 2492 of 5796 (860118)
08-05-2019 3:44 PM
Reply to: Message 2490 by LamarkNewAge
08-03-2019 9:20 PM


Re: 2000 Michigan primary results are meaningless
I should remind him that in 1960, Louisiana had 3,257,022 people reside there, and over a quarter of the people were black. Blacks were mostly Republican then.
Not sure what this has to do with the 2000 Michigan primary. That is the primary that was meaningless.
Absolutely nothing you posted here has anything to with my post. Just your typical random gobbledygook.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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