Very well put. But I do have to point out that the open borders thing is a straw man. No one that should be considered serious is advocating open borders. The open borders argument is a boogie man designed to get the rubes fired up.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
LOL. Your ignorance is only eclipsed by your hate.
we defeated the Conquistadores, and Islam attacked us
Neither point is true. The United States did not even exist in the time of the Conquistadors. Islam did not attack the United States any more than Christianity attacked the US at the start of the Civil War. Have you ever claimed the US was attacked by Shintoism?
The reason we have these darling lady enemies in our midst
They are more patriotic and working harder for the ideals of this country and our Constitution than you ever will or ever have. People like you are the biggest threat to our country.
I keep thinking of a book I want to write
Sure.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
The only falsehoods I see are the ones you are peddling. If you are going to accuse people of promoting a "false storyline", how about you explain what you think is false and support your argument with actual data and facts?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
Or you are a right winger out of touch with reality. Your original post on this was offensive and racist. Stalinism is not socialism. It is a totalitarian political structure. In reality it is not socialism but reactionary conservatism. You need to stop using it as a socialist bogeyman.. National Socialism was not socialist it was fascist. Just because it uses socialism its name does not make it socialistic. Do you think North Korea is Democratic or a Republic? AOC is of Puerto Rican heritage. Puerto Ricans are not Mexicans. They do not come from south of the Rio Grande. That you think all Latinos are one people is highly offensive. Your comment on this makes no sense. We should not complain about white imperialism because people from central America are descended from Spaniards? That is a stupid and insulting argument. Finally, no one is allowed to criticize Israel? Not sure WTF you are trying to say. You really need to understand the subject matter before you try to post. Will make you look less ignorant and less racist. Maybe.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
Wow your right wing credentials are showing. So corrections of lame incorrect eight wing talking points are smears? If you want to hang here you have to do better than that. The 4 congresswomen are not anti-semites. Not having blind devotion to the Israeli govt is not anti-semitism. Criticizing Israel is not anti-semitism. If it were there would be a lot of Jewish Americans in that category. Criticizing your own country is not unpatriotic.
Do not take my non reply as a victory. I shortly will be out of cell and internet service for the next week. I will respond when I get back from fishing
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
You know who gets to decide what's racist? Non-whites.
This is an important point that entitled white men don't seem to get or want to get. White men do not get to tell people of color what is racist. White men do not get to tell women what is misogynistic. It is easy to pontificate from on high when one is privileged.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
If you had actually checked things out before posting them, a problem when you believe anything that falls into your belief set, you would know there are problems with this documentary. This documentary has been soundly debunked and shown to be very inaccurate.
First of all the new station is owned by Sinclair. I won't get into Sinclair here but Wiki covers it quite well. Let's just say they do propaganda well. Sinclair Broadcast Group - Wikipedia
Does Seattle have issues? Sure they do. All cities have issues, but correlation does not imply causation does it? But this documentary does not even show correlation. Now how about you show some data to support this statement.
Cities deeply entrenched in Progressivism sadly tend to have the most regressive traits when compared to the national average.
Cherry picking one city does not support your claim. But lets see the data for Seattle to start. Remember bare links are not an argument. Present the data. Or you can retract the claim.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.
Edited by Theodoric, : Clearing up comments
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
That is a bit different than claiming the markets would crash. Which is your original claim. When he made the comment markets were plunging. He was wrong when he said markets would never recover, but he never claimed the market would crash. That being said he is not a leftist. He is the epitome of a centrist economist.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
I wish this site had a save as draft mode. I lost everything twice on this post hopefully I am making improvements.
As I stated earlier you need to provide a lot more data to support your original claim. Let's look at your original claim.
Cities deeply entrenched in Progressivism sadly tend to have the most regressive traits when compared to the national average.
Just talking about Seattle does not support this contention. But lets look at the propaganda you are spouting about Seattle first.
So let me make sure I'm clear... KOMO news is suspect but the SeattleTimes isn't? What is your metric? Because you agree with one but not the other?
First of all posting the video is a clear violation of forum rules. According to the rules you should be summarizing it’s claims and supporting it with data. Bare links are not allowed. I am not going to watch poropganda. Evidently you do not read what people post. KOMO is owned by Sinclair Broadcasting, which is a well known and admitted propraganda organization.
The Seattle Times is a well respected news organization with 10 Pulitzers. If you have a problem with the Seattle Times data present a rebuttal to what they state. It is quite telling that the only sources you have are a propaganda outfit and a far right think tank. Now lets look at the City Journal. This is the magazine of a well known right wing, free market think tank, Manhattan Institute for Policy Research. The magazine and the institute do not even bother to present themselves as unbiased. The purpose of each is to influence policy decisions toward radical free market ideals. They adopt a position and cherry pick data to support that position. All think tanks do this. A very big tell on the City Journal is its front page article. Why Democrats Lose. It is review of a book by a libertarian. The review is full or right wing talking points and concern trolling.
quote:Seattle is under siege. Over the past five years, the Emerald City has seen an explosion of homelessness, crime, and addiction.
At no time does it present any data to support this claim. The Seattle Time’s article presents data undermining this claim Now here is the kicker on this. The article is written by Christopher F. Rufo, a Discovery Institute fellow. All of us around here know the Discovery Institute. They are the epitome of having a position and cherry picking data to support the position. This is the only info I can find about his background. He has no expertise in urban policy as far s I can tell. http://www.discovery.org/p/751 Oh yeah it seems he is a right wing grifter too. Ethics Complaint Alleges Christopher Rufo Broke Law When He Donated Surplus Funds to His Own Foundation - The Stranger
All crime in the US has been dropping everywhere since the 1980's, so your use of datasets from the 80's is misleading.
The Seattle Time’s article uses a continuous graph from the 1980’s so you comment is misleading. Violent crime and property crime levels are lower than they were in 2005 and close to lowest levels in decades if not in forever. Look at the article.
However, when comparing apples to apples, the homicide rate in 2017 was the highest since 2003.]
Let’s look at the raw #’s? Your statement means nothing without the data. The raw #’s for 2017 are 27. Your own source says there were 34 in 2003. The average between 2003 and 2017 is 23.3. Figures don’t lie, but liars can figure. There has been a large increase in sexual assaults. To pin this on homelessness and progressive policies is quite a bit of a stretch. The increase of rape reports is partially do to new awareness and new definitions by the FBI. FBI Definition, #MeToo May Increase Rape Reports | Nebraska Public Media I do not see that as an explosion.
Seattle’s murder rate puts it on the low end of the spectrum for major US cities. Rape is lower middle. Total violent crime is in the middle of the pack. For property crime Seattle is in the upper quarter. The well known liberal cities of Mobile, Wichita, Baton Rouge, St Louis and Memphis beat it out. Correlation does not imply causation.
Right wingers have a tendency of believing, without question, anything that reinforces their belief set. There is no attempt to vet the source or find the original source of data. A quick 5 minute search would have exposed issues with the video. Rightwingers seemingly have an inability to tell the difference between actual journalism and propaganda. Making assertions without data to back it is meaningless. Assertions must have facts to back them. A good sign that an argument is bs is the lack of supporting facts and data.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
This is just another example of right wing concern trolling and the media attempting to bait the Dem nominees to attack each other. Once you actually look at the actual facts, there is nothing there. Rightwingers will continually trust sources that are lying to them. It reinforces their world view of hate and supremacy.
Tulsi Gabbard has held some reprehensible positions in the past. She has shown repeatedly that she has no shame.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
™ Version 4.2
