Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 63 (9162 total)
5 online now:
Newest Member: popoi
Post Volume: Total: 916,331 Year: 3,588/9,624 Month: 459/974 Week: 72/276 Day: 23/49 Hour: 1/0


EvC Forum Side Orders Coffee House Conservative Racism

Summations Only

Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Conservative Racism
Sarah Bellum
Member (Idle past 614 days)
Posts: 826
Joined: 05-04-2019


Message 301 of 953 (858362)
07-19-2019 5:56 PM
Reply to: Message 294 by JonF
07-19-2019 4:20 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
They may get a lot of votes, from a lot of people who will subsequently be disappointed.
But then, there's a lot of that going around.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 294 by JonF, posted 07-19-2019 4:20 PM JonF has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 314 by JonF, posted 07-20-2019 9:47 AM Sarah Bellum has seen this message but not replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1462 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 302 of 953 (858365)
07-19-2019 6:08 PM
Reply to: Message 300 by Faith
07-19-2019 5:45 PM


Note to Percy
If you really intend to so completely destroy anything I say about Llftist politics as you just did in my previous post, then clearly you are not just punishing me for misbehavior bur for my opinions. I would remind you that your own Rules, at the tope of the page, say you do not censor posts here. You have gone beyond even your own claimed reasons for censoring me. That really is what happens in ttottallitarianism. Free speech for you but not for me.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 300 by Faith, posted 07-19-2019 5:45 PM Faith has not replied

  
dwise1
Member
Posts: 5945
Joined: 05-02-2006
Member Rating: 5.4


Message 303 of 953 (858369)
07-19-2019 7:06 PM
Reply to: Message 280 by Faith
07-19-2019 1:39 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
My mistake. I meant the direction, which is the dominant direction despite Trump's efforts, the Dem party is taking us in.
But still, that is not the direction that we are currently heading, which is dictated by Trump and his complicit party and which is leading to the destruction of America.
You'd better believe that I'm going to be voting for America.
Edited by dwise1, : new paragraph

This message is a reply to:
 Message 280 by Faith, posted 07-19-2019 1:39 PM Faith has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 304 by Faith, posted 07-19-2019 7:17 PM dwise1 has replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1462 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 304 of 953 (858372)
07-19-2019 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 303 by dwise1
07-19-2019 7:06 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
Yeah I'm ssure you'll be voting against Trump because you don't understand that he represents America and the Left represents its destruction.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 303 by dwise1, posted 07-19-2019 7:06 PM dwise1 has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 306 by dwise1, posted 07-19-2019 10:51 PM Faith has replied

  
Theodoric
Member
Posts: 9130
From: Northwest, WI, USA
Joined: 08-15-2005
Member Rating: 3.3


(3)
Message 305 of 953 (858384)
07-19-2019 9:39 PM
Reply to: Message 299 by Sarah Bellum
07-19-2019 5:44 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
Or you are a right winger out of touch with reality. Your original post on this was offensive and racist.
Stalinism is not socialism. It is a totalitarian political structure. In reality it is not socialism but reactionary conservatism. You need to stop using it as a socialist bogeyman.. National Socialism was not socialist it was fascist. Just because it uses socialism its name does not make it socialistic. Do you think North Korea is Democratic or a Republic?
AOC is of Puerto Rican heritage. Puerto Ricans are not Mexicans. They do not come from south of the Rio Grande. That you think all Latinos are one people is highly offensive. Your comment on this makes no sense. We should not complain about white imperialism because people from central America are descended from Spaniards? That is a stupid and insulting argument.
Finally, no one is allowed to criticize Israel? Not sure WTF you are trying to say. You really need to understand the subject matter before you try to post. Will make you look less ignorant and less racist. Maybe.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 299 by Sarah Bellum, posted 07-19-2019 5:44 PM Sarah Bellum has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 308 by Sarah Bellum, posted 07-19-2019 11:28 PM Theodoric has replied

  
dwise1
Member
Posts: 5945
Joined: 05-02-2006
Member Rating: 5.4


(3)
Message 306 of 953 (858386)
07-19-2019 10:51 PM
Reply to: Message 304 by Faith
07-19-2019 7:17 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
No, I'll be voting against Trump because I understand all too well what he represents to America: a clear and present danger.
I also understand all too well that the GOP is complicit in endangering America.
At this point, we have to count on the people who do value the Constitution, the rule of law, the rights of the citizenry, national unity, secure representative elections, a functional government, a functional state department that will try to repair the damage this administration has done to our international relations (thus greatly reducing national security), sane trade policies, a healthy economy in which people can make a living wage, a clean environment, sane immigration laws and policies, and basic common decency.
Those are just some of the things we need for our country to stop its Trump/GOP-driven slide into becoming a shite-hole country, and to become America again.
We must depend on the Democrats, since the Republicans are all lined up against making America America again.
E Pluribus Unum!

This message is a reply to:
 Message 304 by Faith, posted 07-19-2019 7:17 PM Faith has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 307 by Faith, posted 07-19-2019 10:59 PM dwise1 has not replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1462 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 307 of 953 (858387)
07-19-2019 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 306 by dwise1
07-19-2019 10:51 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
Yeah well I can come right back with my completely opposite point of view you know, the Democrats are the anti-Americans who are destroying the country every moment of every day with their Marxist worldview, their politically correct character assassination and slander of everybody they disasgree with, their propaganda against everything good, and Trump isn't perfect but he's certainly on the side of the good, on restoring America the good, he's no Nazi, he's no racist, he's no white supremacist, all that is evil leftist propaganda. He's a patriot and he's trying to save the country.
Clearly we are so absolutely polarized these days there is no way to bridge the gap. The only way to have friendships across the abyss is by never ever talking about politics. At least in my experience.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 306 by dwise1, posted 07-19-2019 10:51 PM dwise1 has not replied

  
Sarah Bellum
Member (Idle past 614 days)
Posts: 826
Joined: 05-04-2019


(1)
Message 308 of 953 (858389)
07-19-2019 11:28 PM
Reply to: Message 305 by Theodoric
07-19-2019 9:39 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
So, the usual left-wing mudslinging.
But it doesn't cover up the news headlines that the four up-and-coming standard-bearers of the Democratic Party (you know, the "Squad" that's giving Speaker Pelosi such headaches) are anti-semites and socialists.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 305 by Theodoric, posted 07-19-2019 9:39 PM Theodoric has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 310 by Theodoric, posted 07-20-2019 7:25 AM Sarah Bellum has seen this message but not replied
 Message 315 by JonF, posted 07-20-2019 9:52 AM Sarah Bellum has seen this message but not replied

  
PaulK
Member
Posts: 17825
Joined: 01-10-2003
Member Rating: 2.2


Message 309 of 953 (858393)
07-20-2019 1:55 AM
Reply to: Message 299 by Sarah Bellum
07-19-2019 5:44 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
quote:
Socialism can cause problems
Maybe. But it can help solve them too.
quote:
Stalin is a good reminder
Certainly not. I’d describe it as an idiotic smear.
quote:
(Hitler, too, and his National Socialists).
I’d say don’t be silly but it’s a little late for that.
quote:
Are you going to say Stalin wasn't a Socialist?
He certainly didn’t have much in common with a modern Massachusetts socialist.
quote:
The "Conquistador" reference was to remind all those "liberals" who complain about white imperialists that the people south of the Rio Grande are descended from Conquistadores (or their slaves, either subjugated natives or those brought over from Africa).
And because you think that Cortez and Pizarro fought at the Alamo ?
I don’t really think I’d describe a Caribbean island as South of the Rio Grande either. I don’t think that liberals object to people because they are descended from African slaves either.
quote:
As for liberal Muslims, as far as I know, liberals aren't supposed to apologize for "insinuating that American support for Israel is fueled by money from a pro-Israel lobbying group" or say "It's all about the Benjamin's baby!" when complaining about the Jewish lobby. So maybe they're just "muslims" without the "liberal" qualifier.
Let us note that there’s nothing there linking anyone to the 9/11 attack, carried out by extremists, mostly from Wahabbi Saudi Arabia. I also think that it is entirely legitimate to criticise the Israel lobby and Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians - and that such criticisms are not inherently anti-semitic.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 299 by Sarah Bellum, posted 07-19-2019 5:44 PM Sarah Bellum has seen this message but not replied

  
Theodoric
Member
Posts: 9130
From: Northwest, WI, USA
Joined: 08-15-2005
Member Rating: 3.3


(1)
Message 310 of 953 (858395)
07-20-2019 7:25 AM
Reply to: Message 308 by Sarah Bellum
07-19-2019 11:28 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
Wow your right wing credentials are showing. So corrections of lame incorrect eight wing talking points are smears? If you want to hang here you have to do better than that.
The 4 congresswomen are not anti-semites. Not having blind devotion to the Israeli govt is not anti-semitism. Criticizing Israel is not anti-semitism. If it were there would be a lot of Jewish Americans in that category.
Criticizing your own country is not unpatriotic.
Do not take my non reply as a victory. I shortly will be out of cell and internet service for the next week. I will respond when I get back from fishing

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 308 by Sarah Bellum, posted 07-19-2019 11:28 PM Sarah Bellum has seen this message but not replied

  
JonF
Member (Idle past 186 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 311 of 953 (858410)
07-20-2019 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 299 by Sarah Bellum
07-19-2019 5:44 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
Stalin was a communist. Hitler was a fascist. Follow the actions, not the name.
How many variations of Socialism do you know of?
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 299 by Sarah Bellum, posted 07-19-2019 5:44 PM Sarah Bellum has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 316 by Sarah Bellum, posted 07-20-2019 10:13 AM JonF has replied

  
JonF
Member (Idle past 186 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 312 of 953 (858411)
07-20-2019 9:45 AM
Reply to: Message 299 by Sarah Bellum
07-19-2019 5:44 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
Dupe.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 299 by Sarah Bellum, posted 07-19-2019 5:44 PM Sarah Bellum has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 317 by Sarah Bellum, posted 07-20-2019 10:13 AM JonF has replied

  
JonF
Member (Idle past 186 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 313 of 953 (858412)
07-20-2019 9:46 AM
Reply to: Message 300 by Faith
07-19-2019 5:45 PM


No facts, incoherent rant.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 300 by Faith, posted 07-19-2019 5:45 PM Faith has not replied

  
JonF
Member (Idle past 186 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 314 of 953 (858414)
07-20-2019 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 301 by Sarah Bellum
07-19-2019 5:56 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
Yes, there's a lot of that going around in re Trump.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 301 by Sarah Bellum, posted 07-19-2019 5:56 PM Sarah Bellum has seen this message but not replied

  
JonF
Member (Idle past 186 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 315 of 953 (858415)
07-20-2019 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 308 by Sarah Bellum
07-19-2019 11:28 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
How many varieties of socialism do you know of? "Socialism" is becoming as meaningless as "fake news", just an incantation to ward off something you can't deal with.
What quotes indicate anti-semitism?
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 308 by Sarah Bellum, posted 07-19-2019 11:28 PM Sarah Bellum has seen this message but not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 323 by dwise1, posted 07-20-2019 12:01 PM JonF has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024