I Know That God Does Not Exist

And what is your rationale for saying that two plus three is "many"?

Seeing as how intelligence evolved on earth starting from a non-intelligent rocky planet a few billion years ago, your position is clearly untenable.Or maybe it was the Little Green Men (or some black Monolith or something) that gave the primitive primates intelligence?But even if that was the case, you're stuck with a dilemma: either there was some point before there was intelligence in the universe or the universe is infinitely old and there always was intelligence.

Sara is approaching this from a logic and science perspective. I approach it from a faith perspective, so my paradigm differs, yet I can see what Sara is saying. In other words, you are saying that truth is relative to the individual and that you can rationalize your own truth in any argument and that we should consider your rationale valid. It is not. There is One Truth. Period. Your attempts at making the argument relative to you fail. In Saras paradigm, Truth exists as a final answer. In my paradigm God exists as a final answer. In your warped paradigm, ringos rationale exists above all else and will post a reply to any question. You thrive on being your own god.

His rationale is to endlessly debate and provide a counter answer to any of our answers simply to avoid having to agree(submit) to our answer. Even if our answer is correct. No wonder he never listened to God nor believed that God existed.When I see him arguing the same way with you---of a scientific mind--i see the little imp at play in his mind.

Not sure what the point of all this is, unless it's to eventually argue that it is (now, in the 21st century) rational to believe in some sort of deity.

I can imagine that both conclusions can be argued. Our very own jar confesses that he is a believer and that his belief is irrational. And to be honest, something without evidence is often irrational, though not always...as Stile suggests.My only "eveidence" is subjective feelings and strong impressions that I have had. Repeatedly. Objectively, evidence is rare if ever seen.Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.

In the end, it hardly matters. People's actions are rarely rational, anyway.

The point is that matter was inanimate and then it was animate. You can claim that God did it or you can claim that you did it but all we know for sure is that it did happen.

The point here is that people who have a rationale are not irrational. If people have a number system where the next number beyond two is many, then that is their rationale and they are not irrational.

No, I am not saying anything about truth. We are talking about rationality. It's not about what you consider valid. It's about whether I have a reasoned position. Nonsense. But nothing to do with what I am saying. I am not talking about anything relative, so you fail. Is that what she's saying? If it is, she's as wrong as you are. But that is not an issue that I am discussing with her or anybody else in this thread. Nope. All I'm saying is that if I have a rationale, I am not irrational. Well, it's a debate forum. That's why we're here. Stop it.

This is not Family Feud. "Good answer! Good answer!" is not a productive response here. So yes, if there is something wrong in somebody's post that needs pointing out, I'm going to point it out. When have your answers ever been correct? I have listened to God as much as you have. Stop lying. The scientific method requires peers to point out the errors that their peers make. It's better to disagree than to blindly take sides.

That explains why people who count "One, Two, Many" or "One, Two, Three, Many" might answer "Many" to the question.That would be, for them, rational.But for us, it would not be rational to answer "Many".

Please explain.Are banana keys a hypothesis? Crab chairs?Dark matter is a hypothesis - there is evidence pointing in the direction that *something* exists... and we call it dark matter.
God isn't like this, though. There is no evidence pointing in the direction that *something God-like* exists... God is on the level of banana keys and crab chairs. For the ideas of God that are physically supportable - yes.
And, as you agree, we look and there's nothing there. In this sense, God is a failed hypothesis and we know He doesn't exist. Yes, we do.
Unless you have another, reasonable/rational area where we should look?This is the thing with God.There have been plenty of reasonable/rational ideas for where we should look:-The sun is powerful - look in the sun
-Something controls the weather - look in the weather
-Love seems Godly - God is in our hearts...all originally rational and reasonable ideas at the time.
Then we looked, and there's no evidence of God.Now, all we're left with is irrational and unreasonable ideas of where to look:...um, uh... maybe... God is somewhere we cannot detect!
...perhaps... God is in another dimension we have not identified yet!
...could be... God is beyond our solar system and located somewhere else in the universe we haven't been yet!But the problem with these ideas is that there's no evidence to even point in their direction.
These ideas are not like a hypothesis (like Dark matter, or the Higgs Boson before it was found) there is no evidence to even suggest that they could be valid.
Just like banana keys and crab chairs.As well, we have the pattern of goal-post-shifting for God:God is in the Sun! -No, He's not
God is in the weather! -No, He's not
God is in our hearts! -No, He's not
...this also counts to show that in a rational, reasonable analysis... the "next goalpost" for God's location is also likely known. It will likely follow the exact same pattern.This actually places banana keys and crab chairs slightly ahead of God. Since no one has been moving goal posts for banana keys and crab chairs for thousands of years.But, regardless of which is slightly ahead or not... all such ideas without evidence to point in their direction at all - are all not rational or reasonable or logical.They are all irrational.But if you think otherwise - please explain how it's actually rational or logical to believe that something actually exists without any evidence whatsoever to support such an idea in the first place. Included in all rational conclusions of knowing something doesn't exist. Absolutely.
And the only reasonable conclusion based on what we do know about God is that we know God does not exist.

I only say it after a critic fails because it does not make sense itself.Repetition doesn't make something more valid.
But repeating the idea after a failed critic is certainly valid. If it is a theory in QM - then there is some level of evidence for it. Likely mathematical evidence.
If there's no evidence to suggest it's possible at all. It would not be "a theory" in QM. Absolutely.The Higgs-Boson was a theory before we found it.
Dark Matter is a theory now.We did not know about the Higgs-Boson 10 years ago.
We do not know about Dark Matter now.But... there was evidence that suggested the Higgs-Boson existed 10 years ago - that's what formed the hypothesis and what we tested - and we happened to find it.
There is also evidence that suggests Dark Matter exists - that's what the hypothesis about Dark Matter is formed on. We still don't know - but maybe one day we will.God is not like this.
The reason we do not know about God is because there is no evidence to support the idea that God actually exists.
There used to be... the sun, weather, in our hearts... but we looked and found nothing.
Now there is no more rational reason to believe God exists anywhere. No evidence to support the idea that God might actually be behind something or located somewhere.
This is not the same as multi-verse theory in QM, or the Higgs-Boson 10 years ago, or Dark Matter now.Since they are not the same - your critic again fails.
And therefore, my conclusion remains valid.
Therefore, it's valid for me to repeat it again: I know that God does not exist. There is evidence that multiverses may exist.
There is no evidence that banana keys or crab chairs exist.
There is no evidence that God exists.I do not know that multiverses do not exist.I do know that banana keys and crab chairs do not exist.
I do know that God does not exist.

Because we have searched for God for thousands of years and found nothing.
And, now, there is no evidence that supports that God even *may* exist somewhere. God isn't an irrational idea because of an opinion.
God is an irrational idea because there's no evidence that God could exist anywhere.