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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
The Pacific Ocean is 15 times larger than the United States and 6.5 times larger than North America and 3.6 times larger than the Americas (North, Central, and South). The Atlantic Ocean is 2.5 times larger than the Americas. The Indian Ocean is 1.7 times larger than the Americas. All these oceans are areas of net deposition and are adding to the geologic column.
Even if only 1/10 of the Pacific generates one layer it will dwarf the extent of any layers in the Midwest and in the Grand Canyon/Grand Staircase area. WTF is it with lakes? Lakes are usually areas of net deposition, they add to the geologic column, but their additions seldom have impressive extent. I'm talking about OCEANS. The subject is OCEANS. If you reply please do not use the word "lake" or any synonym. Feel free to discuss OCEANS.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Well, one end is off the diagram on the right-hand side, so we can't say anything about that end based on the diagram. The ends of the individual strata that are now on the surface will definitely erode, like everything on the surface does. But there's no indication of anything "broken off". They originally had other ends.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It doesn't say what part of Arizona. The depth is also not specified. One needs access to the technical papers for such information. Given the ENORMOUS extent of strata in the Southwest on which you love to harp, it definitely captured one or more of those ENORMOUS strata. .
The point is, ignoring color, the layering in the Arizona core is very similar to the layers in the ocean cores. Layers are being formed as I write and are adding to the geologic column. Some of them rival or exceed the ENORMOUS extent of layers in the Southwest US.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
You are assuming that all the strata end at the sea level line? Really? Really?
Did you notice that all of the strata are continuous above the bottom line? There's no broken off pieces in that drawing. Did you notice that all of the strata are continuous above the bottom line? There's no broken off pieces in that drawing. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I've said dozens of times already that the strata we see on the surface continue below the sea level line and form that distorted block of strata we see there.
They had to have been broken at their tops. You do realize they are not in their original position, don't you? They had to have been stacked one on top of another originally, then they fell down into this current arrangement and the rest of the strata went beneath the sea level line. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
They originally had other ends
And you know this how? Wait, wait, don't tell me... you really really want it to be so.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Why on earth would I WANT it to be so? I have no need for it to be so. It just looks that way to me.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Then where are the broken off strata in the Smith drawing? What color are they in the drawing? What are the nearest labels in the drawing?
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
There's no reason to believe they fell into place. You haven't yet understood that the angles of the strata in the drawing are very very wrong. The strata are really almost horizontal,.
I doubt you'll ever get it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Whut?
I've been trying to get across how I see it as Percy tries to illustrate it: Start with long straight horizontal strata stacked from Cambrian up to Holocene. Tectonic activity raises the rock/mountain beneath this column of strata, causing them to break into two sections. The left or west side falls into the sea. The right or east side falls down so that the upper broken-off ends form the short tilted rocks on the surface of the island arranged from west to east, while the rest of their length continues beneath the sea level line forming the distorted strata we see there. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It just looks that way to me.
And to nobody else. What do you see in that drawing that looks that way to you? There are no "other ends" shown, there's no indication of any break anywhere.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
They had to fall into place because strata are not laid down as we see them, they are laid down each horizontally and stacked vertically one on top of the other. This is how they had to be originally so we need a way to explain how they got into their current position, and that's what I'm visualizing for Percy to try to illustrate.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Repeating your claims is not discussion or worthwhile. Answer my questions. They're not difficult or tricky.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
They are still horizontal or very nearly so. They are still stacked on top of each other. You are seriously misinterpreting the drawings and ignoring the many attempts to point out why you are misinterpreting.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It doesn't say what part of Arizona. The depth is also not specified. One needs access to the technical papers for such information. Given the ENORMOUS extent of strata in the Southwest on which you love to harp, it definitely captured one or more of those ENORMOUS strata. .
The point is, ignoring color, the layering in the Arizona core is very similar to the layers in the ocean cores. Layers are being formed as I write and are adding to the geologic column. Some of them rival or exceed the ENORMOUS extent of layers in the Southwest US. Are you going to ignore this?
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