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Stile
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Message 901 of 2370 (859662)
08-02-2019 12:42 PM
Reply to: Message 898 by Faith
08-02-2019 12:12 PM


Re: evidence?
Faith writes:
Stile writes:
If I went to the Grand Canyon - right on top of the geological columns, and dumped a wheel-barrel of dirt on it and stamped it down - would this be "building on the geological column?"
No.
I admit defeat.
Your ignorance is too great for me to overcome.
I'll leave now.

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Message 902 of 2370 (859669)
08-02-2019 12:50 PM
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08-02-2019 12:42 PM


Re: evidence?
Good bye. And try to understand what the Geological Column is while you're gone.

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Message 903 of 2370 (859681)
08-02-2019 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 895 by Faith
08-02-2019 11:46 AM


Re: evidence?
And how many times do *I* have to tell YOU that the oceans are not building on the geological column?
Repeating false statements\assertions\ignorant c mments doesn't make them any truer than their original bald falseness.
AS I SAID, your candidates for today's deposition on the geo column are either too small though in the right place or large enough but in the wrong place. ...
Too small doesn't matter in the slightest. It''s just a matter of time. And you have a major problem with time. (see Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1).
There is no such thing as the wrong place.
... The Geological Column is OVER AND DONE WITH.
Says the person who insists on being wrong over and over and over.
Now it occurs to me, that you may be confusing the geological column with rocks, not actively deposited sediments that have not yet lithified.
Is that possible?
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Message 904 of 2370 (859683)
08-02-2019 1:12 PM
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08-02-2019 1:07 PM


Re: evidence?
So if it's too small we just imagine that eventually a whole bunch of small deosits of the same sediment will accumulate on the Geo Column hither and yon until eventually we have a new stratum for our time, complete with fossils even. Gosh what faith you all have!
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 905 of 2370 (859688)
08-02-2019 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 902 by Faith
08-02-2019 12:50 PM


Re: evidence?
try to understand what the Geological Column is while you're gone.
I've posted several definitions to which he can refer and which
you can't handle.

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Message 906 of 2370 (859690)
08-02-2019 1:21 PM
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08-02-2019 1:19 PM


Re: evidence?
I guess I missed them.

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JonF
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Message 907 of 2370 (859691)
08-02-2019 1:21 PM
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08-02-2019 1:12 PM


Re: evidence?
So if it's too small we just imagine that eventually a whole bunch of small deosits of the same sediment will accumulate on the Geo Column hither and yon until eventually we have a new stratum for our time, complete with fossils even. Gosh what understanding of natural processes you all have!
FIFY.

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jar
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Message 908 of 2370 (859692)
08-02-2019 1:22 PM
Reply to: Message 895 by Faith
08-02-2019 11:46 AM


Re: evidence?
Faith writes:
And how many times do *I* have to tell YOU that the oceans are not building on the geological column?
It doesn't matter how many times you repeat utter nonsense, it still remains nonsense; just boring nonsense.

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Message 909 of 2370 (859693)
08-02-2019 1:24 PM
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08-02-2019 1:22 PM


Re: evidence?
Uh huh, but there's no point in pretending I haven't answered a nonsensical point when I have, whether you like it or not.

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Faith 
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Message 910 of 2370 (859694)
08-02-2019 1:24 PM
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08-02-2019 1:21 PM


Re: evidence?
I don't understand "FIFY."

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JonF
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Message 911 of 2370 (859695)
08-02-2019 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 906 by Faith
08-02-2019 1:21 PM


Re: evidence?
I guess I missed them.
I've posted definitions three times now. You didn't miss them.
quote:
1. a columnar diagram that shows the rock formations of a locality or region and that is arranged to indicate their relations to the subdivisions of geologic time.
2 : the sequence of rock formations in a geologic column.
(Merriam-Webster, note "a locality or region")
quote:
The geological column is the theoretical classification system for the layers of rocks and fossils that make up the Earth's crust (also known as the standard geologic column). Fossiliferous layers can often be traced across entire continents and correlated with rocks in other countries.
(CreationWiki.com, note "crust" )
quote:
The geologic system is a conceptual arrangement of rock formations around the world meshed together into a single, unbroken record of Earth's past.[1] It is also known as the geologic column or geologic timescale.
(Conservapedia, note" around the world
quote:
Remind students that this term is a compound word. Help students understand the word parts. Geo- means Earth and -logos means study of. A column is a vertical stack and refers to the rock strata. So the geologic column is the study of the layers of rock that make up our Earth.
quote:
arrangement of rock layers in which the oldest rocks are at the bottom
quote:
The arrangement of rock units in the proper chronological order from youngest to oldest.
Did you notice that none of those definitions restrict the location of the geologic column in any way? Every point on the crust (which encompasses all the parts that are above the mantle, including sea floors is the top of "the" geologic column. Really it's the local portion of a world-wide geologic column. The interior layers of the crust vary widely from place to place. But we can tell from context that "geologic column" really means "local geologic column.

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JonF
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Message 912 of 2370 (859697)
08-02-2019 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 909 by Faith
08-02-2019 1:24 PM


Re: evidence?
You haven't answered any points. Repeating claims is not answering.
What is the source of your claim that the geologic column is only on land?

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RAZD
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Message 913 of 2370 (859698)
08-02-2019 1:30 PM
Reply to: Message 898 by Faith
08-02-2019 12:12 PM


... evidence? -- Try the geoplogical cycle ...
... the problem with the candidates for continuation of the Geological Colum -- meaninjg those accumulated on the land area ...
... is that you are wrong. The geological column covers ALL dirt/rock/sediment surfaces, on dry land AND UNDER WATER.
Dry land is usually a surface with net EROSION, which supplies the sediments being deposited on the geological column in rivers lakes and, yes virginia, oceans.
Only a person willingly ignorant of the basics of geology cycles would claim otherwise ...
quote:
INTRODUCTION TO GEOLOGY - GEOLOGICAL CYCLE
Geological Cycle
The Geological Cycle of the Earth is mainly comprised of three subcycles, which are known as the Hydrological Cycle, the Petrological Cycle and the Tectonic Cycle. The Hydrological Cycle includes all studies and measurements regarding the motion of the water in the Earth's atmosphere, hydrosphere and lithosphere. Rock formations corrode from exposure to the atmosphere and the hydrosphere's procedures, and therefore reposited material from the Natural Terrestrial Surface ends up in the ocean. As a result, rock formations are created, fragmented, relocated and destroyed, all part of the significant process of the Petrological Cycle. Large parts of the fragmented and relocated rock formations are buried deep, a process that is later followed by the plaiting and lifting of huge pieces of the Earth's crust, which give birth to new mountain ranges. This procedure is part of the Tectonic Cycle, shaping our planet's Natural Surface by causing immersion of large pieces of land over long periods of time.
Geologists have been monitoring the motions of those materials within subcycles mentioned above for more than 150 years, and therefore vast amounts of accurate data that can be utilized by Engineers in order to reach safe conclusions regarding the nature of the Tectonic Cycle have been acquired. It is fair to say that if it weren't for the constant lifting of giant pieces of the Earth's crust due to tectonic activity, corrosion would have destroyed all surface layers of the crust and all materials, transported by wind and water, would have already accumulated in the ocean. It is obvious that the Earth's tectonic activity balances the destructive effects of corrosion on the Natural Terrestrial Surface, ...
It's a cycle of erosion ("corrosion"), deposition, lithification, uplift, rinse and repeat.
Limiting your discussion to only areas that are net erosion areas means you are only looking at half the cycle.
OBVIOUSLY, if you only look at areas of net erosion you will not observe any building of the geological column there.
So what happens to all that sediment that has eroded away? It is added to the geological column in the locations where it is deposited as sediments ... by wind or water.
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JonF
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Message 914 of 2370 (859699)
08-02-2019 1:30 PM
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08-02-2019 1:24 PM


Re: evidence?
Fixed It For You. I corrected an obvious error in your message.

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Faith 
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Message 915 of 2370 (859701)
08-02-2019 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 911 by JonF
08-02-2019 1:27 PM


Re: evidence?
Did you notice that none of those definitions restrict the location of the geologic column in any way
Well, it does speak of it as a "stack" while the ocean deposits aren't deep enough to be a stack. They are obviously newer than the geological column as we find it on all the continenents, the column does not exist on the sea floor, and since they do not build upon that familiar well known geological column that defines all the time periods it's not part of it.
And may I also point out that since it is new and does not build on the geological column, AND the geologtical column IS found across continents, this alone is evidence for the deposition of the geological column before the continents split, which is evidence for the RFlood.
Ba Da Boom. Or whatever.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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