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Faith 
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Message 916 of 2370 (859702)
08-02-2019 1:39 PM
Reply to: Message 914 by JonF
08-02-2019 1:30 PM


Re: evidence?
I have no idea what you are talkinjg about, and leave my messages alone.

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jar
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Message 917 of 2370 (859703)
08-02-2019 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 909 by Faith
08-02-2019 1:24 PM


You continuing to repeat nonsense is just repeating nonsense Faith.
Faith writes:
Uh huh, but there's no point in pretending I haven't answered a nonsensical point when I have, whether you like it or not.
Continuing to pretend you have actually provided evidence that shows the geological is not continuing to grow and change over time is not actually providing evidence that shows the geological is not continuing to grow and change over time.
What evidence is there that the process that has created the Geological Column as exists today does not continue?

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Faith 
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Message 918 of 2370 (859705)
08-02-2019 1:45 PM
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08-02-2019 1:43 PM


Re: You continuing to repeat nonsense is just repeating nonsense Faith.
Well, but I HAVE provided such evidence.

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ooh-child
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Message 919 of 2370 (859709)
08-02-2019 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 906 by Faith
08-02-2019 1:21 PM


Re: evidence?
I guess I missed them.
Faith, you say you post quite frequently from the public library? Look around you next time you're there. Books! Definitions! Explanations!
Woo-hoo!!

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JonF
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Message 920 of 2370 (859711)
08-02-2019 2:04 PM
Reply to: Message 915 by Faith
08-02-2019 1:38 PM


Re: evidence?
Well, it does speak of it as a "stack" while the ocean deposits aren't deep enough to be a stack
The pictures we have posted show lots of layers. A stack is "a pile of objects, typically one that is neatly arranged". They are a stack.
They are obviously newer than the geological column as we find it on all the continents,
Why? And, were that true, why would that be an issue?
the column does not exist on the sea floor
6,886 unsupported assertions which are contradicted by those definitions. 128,785,965,702 to go.
and since they do not build upon that familiar well known geological column that defines all the time periods it's not part of it.
Since they don't build upon your made-up version of the geologic column but do build on the geologic column as it is defined by everyone but you, it's part of the geologic column.
And may I also point out that since it is new and does not build on the geological column
No, you may not, because that's false as shown by those definitions.
Of course you could produce a definition from some source other than you, except no such source exists. The definition of the geologic column does not restrict it to land.
Edited by Admin, : The spaces in the 128 billion number made it hard to read, maybe just me, but removed them. Also, corrected typo in quote from Faith's message: continenents => continents

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Message 921 of 2370 (859712)
08-02-2019 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 915 by Faith
08-02-2019 1:38 PM


Re: evidence?
the column does not exist on the sea floor,
actually correct, the column is not on top of the sea floor, the column is under the sea floor. The top of the column under the ocean is the top surface of the ocean bed.

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jar
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Message 922 of 2370 (859716)
08-02-2019 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 918 by Faith
08-02-2019 1:45 PM


Re: You continuing to repeat nonsense is just repeating nonsense Faith.
Faith writes:
Well, but I HAVE provided such evidence.
Then you can provide a link to the posts where you provided the information.
Or stop lying.
Whichever is easier.

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Message 923 of 2370 (859718)
08-02-2019 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 922 by jar
08-02-2019 2:32 PM


Re: You continuing to repeat nonsense is just repeating nonsense Faith.
Faith writes:
Well, but I HAVE provided such evidence.
Then you can provide a link to the posts where you provided the information.
Or stop lying.
Whichever is easier.
What a dilemma, stop lying and tell the truth. Everyone here knows how that will go...

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JonF
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Message 924 of 2370 (859719)
08-02-2019 2:56 PM
Reply to: Message 918 by Faith
08-02-2019 1:45 PM


Re: You continuing to repeat nonsense is just repeating nonsense Faith.
Well, but I HAVE provided endless repetition of my unsupported claims
FIFY
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 925 of 2370 (859720)
08-02-2019 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 916 by Faith
08-02-2019 1:39 PM


Re: evidence?
Look at what I bolded in the "quote"

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JonF
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Message 926 of 2370 (859722)
08-02-2019 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 922 by jar
08-02-2019 2:32 PM


Re: You continuing to repeat nonsense is just repeating nonsense Faith.
Whichever is easier.
She literally can't. She is unable to detect any difference between her inventions and reality. She believes deep down in her soul that repeating claims is discussing and supporting. See Message 920 where she repeated her claim that the geologic column does not exist under the sea floor as "evidence" against the definitions that contradict it.

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RAZD
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Message 927 of 2370 (859737)
08-02-2019 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 915 by Faith
08-02-2019 1:38 PM


Re: evidence?
Oh dear, the hubris of wanton ignorance ... so many erroneous assertions ...
Well, it does speak of it as a "stack" while the ocean deposits aren't deep enough to be a stack. ...
The "stack" goes down to the bottom of the crust, so it does exist on the sea floor as the sediment there goes down to the crust.
... They are obviously newer than the geological column as we find it on all the continenents, ...
... because they are areas of net deposition, where the geological column is building. In contrast to you narrow vision myopic view of land geological columns that are in areas of net erosion -- part of the geological cycle pr message Message 913. You CAN educate yourself on this rather than try to make it all up.
... the column does not exist on the sea floor, and since they do not build upon that familiar well known geological column that defines all the time periods it's not part of it.
It does exist on the sea floor because that is not the bottom of the crust. We can see this clearly from the ...
quote:
Mid-ocean ridges
A mid-ocean ridge (MOR) is a seafloor mountain system formed by plate tectonics. ... This feature is where seafloor spreading takes place along a divergent plate boundary. The rate of seafloor spreading determines the morphology of the crest of the mid-ocean ridge and its width in an ocean basin. The production of new seafloor and oceanic lithosphere results from mantle upwelling in response to plate separation. The melt rises as magma at the linear weakness in the oceanic crust, and emerges as lava, creating new crust and lithosphere upon cooling. The Mid-Atlantic Ridge is a spreading center that bisects the North and South Atlantic basins; hence the origin of the name 'mid-ocean ridge'. Most oceanic spreading centers are not in the middle of their hosting ocean basis but regardless, are called mid-ocean ridges. Mid-ocean ridges around the globe are linked by plate tectonic boundaries and appear similar to the seam of a baseball. The mid-ocean ridge system thus is the longest mountain range on Earth, reaching about 65,000 km (40,000 mi).
Mid-ocean ridge cross section (cut away view)

See that gray layer of marine sediment being deposited on top of the green layer of "ocean crust (Basalt/Grabbro) ~5-7 km" thick? that is the geological column in those areas. Below that is the orange lithosphere mantle ... the top of this mantle layer is the bottom of the geological column in this area.
The sedimentary deposits are in the process of forming the layer that will define the "anthropocen age". Time has not ended, it continues, just as the geological processes and cycles continue. Probably most notable for the high levels of radioactive material ...
And may I also point out that since it is new and does not build on the geological column, ...
Except that it is built on the geological column/s in the ocean floor/s.
... AND the geologtical column IS found across continents, ...
... AND everywhere on earth, INCLUDING across the Oceans.
... AND the geologtical column IS found across continents, ...
... that were once ocean bottoms in the past.
... this alone is evidence for the deposition of the geological column before the continents split, which is evidence for the RFlood.
Nope. It is evidence that the sedimentary deposits occurred when that area was under water, oceans covered much of NA in times past. Plate tectonics explains it, the flood does not.
Ba Da Boom. Or whatever.
Only in your dreams.
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Enjoy
Edited by RAZD, : .

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RAZD
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Message 928 of 2370 (859740)
08-02-2019 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 918 by Faith
08-02-2019 1:45 PM


Re: You continuing to repeat nonsense is just repeating nonsense Faith.
Well, but I HAVE provided such evidence.
Looking only at areas of net erosion does not provide evidence that geological processes have ended.
Why?
Because you ignore area of net deposition where the geological column is actively growing.
In fact the area of net erosion also show that geological processes have not stopped, because they are actively eroding ... and that sediment from the erosion is going somewhere ...
Think about it, Faith. All you need to do is really think about that missing sediment ... what is it doing?
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Faith 
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Message 929 of 2370 (859741)
08-02-2019 5:30 PM
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08-02-2019 5:15 PM


Re: evidence?
The "stack" begins with precambrian rocks and ascends through the sedimentary layerss from Cambrian through Holocene, variations of which is what we find on the continents;
it does not exist on the sea floor. What is being laid down on the sea floor is therefore not building on the geological column. You guys are kidding yourselves.
The Geological Column or Timescale is OVER AND DONE WITH. Ba Da Boom!
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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From: Nevada, USA
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Message 930 of 2370 (859744)
08-02-2019 5:34 PM
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08-02-2019 5:26 PM


Re: You continuing to repeat nonsense is just repeating nonsense Faith.
There is no problem with defining the Geo Column as the strata we find in various forms on all the continents from Precambrian to Holocene. Nothing else is necessary to the definition and by this definition we have no further growth of the Geological Column. It is OVER AND DONE WITH.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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