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No comprendo, but I like gold. Though maybe I'd prefer raspberry pie. Yes I think so.

Of course you won't, because you just might learn something like what's really going on. Instead, you'll continue to feed on the right's lies and propaganda.I heard of a special operation for Republicans; it even has a special name. They replace your sternum with a piece of clear plexiglass. That way, you're able to see where you're going when your head is up your arse. That operation is in high demand. We've seen your standards, so we know that that is not the least bit true.

Golly gosh, it couldn't be that YOU are feeding on the Left's lies?And the ridicule and namecalling really don't help your case.

Well, we see all the video, including Trump's many lies and even how those lies change over time. We see video of what happens, so we see him committing obstruction in real time. We see him ordering his people to break the law by ignoring subpoenas, which is also obstruction. We see what the laws are, such as the IRS being required by law to provide Congress with anyone's tax returns -- IOW, "shall" does indeed mean "shall". We have read Mueller's report, not just being told by someone what it says, so we know for a fact that it contains lots of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians and that it describes in detail 10 acts of obstruction of justice and that the only reason Mueller could not indict Trump was because of that OLC memo. We even see copies of Twit-in-Chief Trump's tweets, so we're not just being told what he wrote, but rather we can see them for ourselves. And we see whatOn top of that, we know how things are supposed to work and we can tell when they aren't. Especially veterans like Senior Chief Nance and I know how security and clearances are supposed to be done, so we can see when those are being violated, which this administration has been doing on a massive scale.We've had access to the raw facts for years, so we can compare what the pundits say to what actually happened.As far as we can tell, you just have the right-wing commentators telling you everything you need to believe without showing you the raw facts.You don't have a case.

I actually think perhaps it speaks more to what you think if you instinctively correlate a "rat-infested hell hole" to black people. Lets think about it objectively... anyone that drew a parallel to a rat-infested hellhole and equates that phrase alone to where black people live might be suspect of the very thing they find so odious.I'm no Trump apologist and I'm not here to defend him in any manner. I'm fairly certain he harbors some racist tendencies... but I'd like to be clear that my comment was more of a reaction to this cultural of outrage and identity politics that we've been fostering as of late.If that isn't ironic enough, consider that the constant harangue of maligning people as racist doesn't actually bear any edible fruit. It just pisses off and will actually have the very effect you want to avoid... which is drawing people towards Trump, not away from him.I listened to Sam Harris' podcast a few days ago where he and his guests make some very salient points regarding it... couldn't agree more.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_FNh_YfQQk

Again, I'm not interested in examining the one statement on its own merits as if it were a single isolated example. Trump has, since the beginning of his campaign, since his hysterical rants about the Central Park Five, since his own discriminatory policies in his realestate dealings, has shown an unmistakable pattern of not just "tendencies" but of being an open racist.And it goes deeper than that. He has had every opportunity to show that he's not a racist. When accused of racism, a non-racist would (perhaps after the hurt feelings) realize that as a member of the dominant demographic group they are not the best judge of what is racist, or what is misonogynisic, or homophobic or Islamophobic.A non-racist would realize that they don't live in a world of constant small insults and indignities, and a non-racist would realize that what insults he is aware of aren't indications of missed opportunities due to unfair discrimination.When accused of racism (or misogyny, or homophobia, or Islamophobia), a non-racist would make a good faith effort to understand why the other person sees their actions as racist and would make an effort to change their behavior so that world in which the victim of constant insults and petty humilities would be a little more comfortable.Trump doesn't do any of that. He seems to not care at all what members of groups who have long faced discrimination think of him, at least not beyond being outraged that someone doesn't think he's the most wonderful person in the world. He certainly makes no effort to change his behavior; instead, he tells other people how they're supposed to think of him.To me, this is evidence by itself that Trump is racist. Furthermore, I would say that his lack of interest in why he's being called racist is, in fact, racism.Edited by Chiroptera, : Ha ha ha! "Petty humidities"!

You do realize donnie was attacking a black congressman when he referred to Baltmore as rat infested, don't you?
Sam Harris is hardly a credible person to talk about racism. He is an alt right and white supremacist enabler. His rants against the concept of white privilege and his embrace of Milos shows that. I find it funny that a person that claims to not be alt right continually puts forth alt right arguments and sources. It must be tough not having the convictions of your beliefs.Oh yeah you really should follow forum rules. You consistently post bare links. If you want to discuss the podcast than summarize the "salient points" and we can discuss them. If you are not willing to do that you should remove the link from your post. I am not going to give Sam the benefit of a click.

Surprising thing to say. Are you referring to anything in particular?

who is Milos?

So when he was making fun of Rosie O'Donnell before his presidency, it was because he's a racist? He's an asshole -- a narcissistic, self-absorbed, self-deluded asshole. He wants to dominate everyone. His self-perception is wildly inflated and his perception of others is that they're stupid and inferior to himself and his capabilities. I think the problem with leftist ideology is that the worst thing in the world is racism, homophobia, etc... and because Trump is legitimately an asshole, every slur is reserved especially for him.My question is why your woke mind immediately drew a connection to rat-infested hellhole with black people? Because to me he's saying, clean up your own trashy city before you come talk to me. Ah, but that's not sensationalistic enough...

About Sam Harris?

Milo Yiannopoulos - WikipediaAlt-right provocateur

Yeah, he was attacking the black congressmen... but you seem to believe he was attacking on the basis of his race. Trump attacks everyone and anyone that speaks in an unflattering tone to him. To me his comment was one of hypocrisy. "How can you speak to me about this or that when you can't even clean up a tiny portion of the country?" That was my interpretation of it. If you thought it was petulant, you and I were in agreement. If you thought it was un-presidential, you and I are in agreement. If you think deep down Trump is a racist, you and I are in agreement. But do I think his comment was meant to have been a racial slight? No. And I think it speaks more to your racist mind to draw that conclusion than it does his. What the fuck is an Alt-Right enabler??? Here's a hint: he and his panel (all leftists, btw) were basically referring to you in that segment. You are exactly the kind of person they were talking about. Milo, you mean that racist homophobe who openly sucks black dick? And Sam Harris, the guy who urged all his listeners to vote for Clinton over Trump? Milo is a provocateur and a professional troll. I wouldn't take much of what he says as too serious. But he's gay and he's married to a black man... so I'm not sure how qualified that makes him to be the typical racist homophobe. Sam Harris has been a leftwing demagogue, anti-christian, anti-creationist for the better part of 20 years until the Left went so far towards the left that its no longer on the page. Ah, so you didn't even click on the link but you're so certain that it was a bare link??? That is an amazing feat! Had you clicked on the link and listened to it, you would clearly see that it was very much relevant to the commentary that preceded it therefore making not a bare link. You're a caricature of everything discussed on that link. It might be edifying for you to hear how the sane left views your extremism.

Stop posting bare links, Theo.

He summarized enough of the link.