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Theodoric Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
It was not a bare link and I was providing information that was specifically asked for.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Hyroglyphx writes:
It would be rather odd if a self-absorbed asshole wasn't a racist. ... because Trump is legitimately an asshole, every slur is reserved especially for him."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
My question is why your woke mind immediately drew a connection to rat-infested hellhole with black people? My woke mind drew the connection when I saw that Elijah Cummings is black and that he represents a black majority district. Context matters. I drew the connection when he told four members of Congress who were members of minority groups to go back to where they came from, was told that this was seen as racist, and then turned around and repeated essentially the same thing to another person of color. Not only does context matter, but, to repeat, when someone is called out for being racist and does nothing to try to understand why it would be seen as racist and then continues to engage in the behaviors that are seen as racist, that make him a racist. -
Because to me he's saying.... I know what he's saying. He's telling Cummings to shut up, and he deliberately chose offensive, insulting, and provocative language to do it. That's what he was saying to Ocasio-Cortez, Pressley, Tlaib, and Omar: he was telling them to shut up and he deliberately chose an offensive way to say it. He doesn't have to tell people to shut up. He doesn't have to tell people to go back to places. He doesn't have to insult people. He does and says things that don't need to be done or said. He creates his own problems for himself. And if it is so important to him that he continues to be an ass hole, then he deserves the scorn that he's earned. And if it is so important to him that he continues to be an ass hole even though it makes him look like a racist, then that makes him a racist. Edited by Chiroptera, : Misspelled a name.It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Does it matter to anyone that Trump also referred to New Hampshire, which is 94% white, as a drug infested den?"
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Yes. Being racist doesn't mean you can never attack whites, only that you do so very rarely. There he was just being a lying asshole. New Hampshire and many other areas have drug problems, but not the entire state.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
And the fact that Elijah Cummings himself referred to that Baltimore district as "drug-infested" also means nothing. Nor the fact that the black mayor of Baltimore was appalled at the smell of the rats there. One way or another you'll make Trump into something he's not just because that's what you want him to be.
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
yeah - just get rid of the fucking Trump family absentee landlord shit.
"I'd rather be an American than a Trump Supporter." - xongsmith, 5.7d
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Well that's just another of those unsubstantiated accusations trying to hold Trump responsible when he's not. The government of the city is responsible for the conditions in that district and they've received billions of dollars in aid to fix it, so where did those billions go? Obviously not to fixing the problem.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
The government of the city is responsible for the conditions in that district and they've received billions of dollars in aid to fix it, so where did those billions go?
then why is trump criticizing Cummings, he's not part of the government of the city.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
He represents the people of Baltimore and therefore has responsibility for what happens there. But when he made the statement about its being "drug infested" back in 1999 he WAS part of the government there and his comments were in the context of asking for government aid.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
He represents the people of Baltimore and therefore has responsibility for what happens there.
Cummings is not part of the municipal government, he's not even part of the state government. That's like saying trump is responsible for the conditions there because he represents the people of baltimore as the president of the united states.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
He was at least part of the state government because he was asking for federal aid for this very problem back in 1999. Trump identified him as responsible for the conditions of Baltimore NOW and nobody has argued against that.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
Trump identified him as responsible for the conditions of Baltimore NOW and nobody has argued against that.
and is trump is currently president he is also responsible.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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The billions of dollars went where they were allocated (by the Feds), and not much of them were allocated to fixing the problem areas. (On average, Cummings' district is quite well off) .
quote:Baltimore does not receive the ‘billions’ Trump says city government wastes, steals — Baltimore Sun Note the last sentence Seems the Republican solution to every problem is to defund or eliminate the people that address it. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If Trump is responsible then he is exercising his responsibility by calling the immediately responsible politicians to do their duty.
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