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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
How much you think you know with your fallen mind. Not me, Love. The world wide community of scientists. Not at all like you in the Flud threads claiming only you are right and the whole rest of the world is wrong. Talk about fallen mind. Yours hit the bedrock base below that last sediment layer ages ago.
I've got a ton of independent corroboration. You can't lie to me like that, M'Lady. I know better.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
if all you've got is eyewitness testimony that's what even the courts have to go by. You really are ignorant of everything, aren't you. If all they got is a supposed eye witness the DA drops the case before the judge kicks his ass down the hall.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I do have a ton of independent corroboration for my claims about Christianity. Yes I do.
And as for claiming to be right and the rest of the world wrong, the point is that I'mn the only YEC on the thread and I'm not going to give up my observations just because everybody else subscribes to the establishment OE/ToE point of view. I don't think that's quite the same thing. And I've often accepted something said by the opposition, but only when it supports my view of course. The Flood is right and the Old Earth is wrong. That's not me, that's an independent source. ABE: I do think that anyone with an independent fair mind would have to agree with me about most of it. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Not ONE eyewitness. You need a number of eyewitnesses to make a case. But in the usual court case these days witnesses are not all you have anyway. But the Bible ONLY has witnesses to the evidence for the reality of God and His nature. You believe them or you don't.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
No it doesn't. Then you say "I have said that not finding something is no guarantee that it doesn't exist" which means you can't demonstrate that something's not there by looking for it and not finding it. I said that it is possible to demonstrate that something doesn't exist - but it doesn't work in every case."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1526 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
I have forgotten what the point was. lol.
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
The Flood is right and the Old Earth is wrong. That's not me, that's an independent source. You don't even know what an independent source would be. To you an *independent* is another religionist with the same weak ideas of what constitutes evidence.
I do think that anyone with an independent fair mind would have to agree with me about most of it. And that would include the millions of independent scientists around the world. Except they don't agree with you. In fact they ignore you and your handful of fellow religionist apologists because you views are so contrary to evidence you are not worth the effort to address. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
But the Bible ONLY has witnesses to the evidence for the reality of God and His nature. In other words you have nothing.
You believe them or you don't. Well, at least these days we get the "don't" choice instead of "believe them or get burned at the stake." And that's not because of anything your religion has done but because secular humanism rules the law. We just need to watch the republican's in chambers to know that if you could resurrect your old powers you would burn us all. Your religion, its party, and its adherents are evil.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
To you an *independent* is another religionist with the same weak ideas of what constitutes evidence. Well no. But there must be SOME independent fair minded people out there somewhere. But your description is kind of like how to you an independent source is another biased OE/ToE believer whose bias is shared by the whole Scientific Community.
I do think that anyone with an independent fair mind would have to agree with me about most of it. And that would include the millions of independent scientists around the world. Well, no it wouldn't because they absolutely could not entertain for half a minute that any argument for the Flood could be right. They wouldn't even give it a thought.
Except they don't agree with you. At all. About anything. They are committed to the establishment view. That is not an independent mind.
In fact they ignore you and your handful of fellow religionist apologists because you views are so contrary to evidence you are not worth the effort to address. Exactly. Neither independent nor fair. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Taq Member Posts: 10045 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Faith writes: At all. About anything. They are committed to the establishment view. That is not an independent mind. Haven't you just described yourself? Aren't you committed to flood geology, no matter what the evidence is?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Well, at least these days we get the "don't" choice instead of "believe them or get burned at the stake." Yes the papacy lost its power to do that at the Protestant Reformation.
And that's not because of anything your religion has done but because secular humanism rules the law. But if the Protestant Reformation hadn't defanged the Roman papal system there would never have been any secular humanism. Besides which the Reformation itself stopped the burnings at the stake and created modern civilization, and gave us the Constitution of the US..
We just need to watch the republican's in chambers to know that if you could resurrect your old powers you would burn us all. I don't identify with the Republican party for your information. However, the papacy is still working on getting its political power back and if they ever do THEY might indeed burn you at the stake, and me as well. Actually they'd probably start with me.
Your religion, its party, and its adherents are evil. Be careful who you call evil because if you are wrong it's the "good guys" in your opinion who are going to turn on you. For all your study of history you sure didn't learn much that matters. But then that's typical for secular education. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
How would it even be possible to get the whole scientific community to share the same bias? ... to you an independent source is another biased OE/ToE believer whose bias is shared by the whole Scientific Community."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You think any of them dispute the OE/ToE?
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Well of course not. They'd have to be insane, feeble-minded, etc. to dispute the ToE. But that's because of evidence, not bias. The reason everybody accepts that the world is round is because of evidence, not bias. You think any of them dispute the OE/ToE?"Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's because they THINK there's evidence, but there really isn't much.
But you were the one who said it wouldn't be possible to get the whole scientific community to share the same bias. But obviously they do. And of course it's bias. And so is the belief that they have evidence. They ASSUME they have evidence, they rarely check it out, and they certainly don't pay any attention to a YEC. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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