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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
YOU are talking about "brown people," Trump is not, and the Republicans are not. Only the racist Leftists are thinking in terms of race. Nobody can talk about culture or ideology without the Left stupidly calling it racist. Like that quote. What ARE you talking about? There is not a racist word in it, you are hallucinating it yourself, just like all the wacko Leftists. Stop it, you are destroying this nation with your unfounded accusations.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8513 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Stop it, you are destroying this nation with your unfounded accusations. Wait! Isn't Satan doing that already because of gay marriage and socialism and feminism and everything else you personally don't happen to like?Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
I was wondering how Trump could have possibly have been elected....
It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2284 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
Stop it, you are destroying this nation with your unfounded accusations.
yeah instead of focusing on trump's racism we should be lying about his birthplace, that's the acceptable level of disrespect for a president.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8513 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Wait! Isn't Satan doing that already because of gay marriage and socialism and feminism and everything else you personally don't happen to like? I was wondering how Trump could have possibly have been elected.... Excuse me, Sir. Are you implying that Satan, a man of wealth and taste, a god of power and intellect, would stoop so low as to have anything to do with this brain dead idiot Trump?Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 738 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
Theodoric took issue with my "growing" part:
quote: If you would read my (rejected by EvC staff as a promoted topic) thread posts, you will see what I am talking about. EvC Forum: Lots of big Public Opinion polls on immigration. "Open Borders" is even polled. I was simply pointing out that the 90% opposition, to open borders, among 64 & older Americans means that the strongly opposed side is the same side that will be passing away, generally. They are, more often than not, the age group that dies. The youngest age group (18-34) is almost 50% supportive of open borders. This group is the least likely to die, infact its gets newer members every day, plus the oldest members of this group move into the 35-49 age group. The poll was back in June of 2018. This is August of 2019. The fact that many of the 65+ group have died since then, means the group is getting replaced by the most supportive age group. Thus "growing" support.
quote: Actually I was lamenting the fact that the professional Democrats are giving "open borders" a bad odor due to endless propaganda against the idea. I am sure that could erode support among Democrats, but I am not entirely sure. I am pretty sure many minority groups and immigrants have been intimidated against supporting "open borders" They probably feel their patriotism demands opposition, because the Democrats told them so.
quote: I am glad you can read people's minds when they are asked polling questions. You need to consider WHEN the poll was asked, before forming an opinion. I think the Marist/NPR/PBS NEWSHOUR poll (the one with 66% opposition to decriminalization that we heard so much about) might have had a lot of people interpret the question in a way that might have - AT THE TIME OF THIS CHRONOLOGICALLY EARLY POLL - made the question & answer seem like an "open border's" issue. http://maristpoll.marist.edu/...Tables_1907190926.pdf#page=3 Again, the professional Democrats have effectively trashed Open Borders since the poll came out. Heck, the professional Democrats seem to want to bitch about the Hill-HarrisX poll, which actually showed fairly underwhelming opposition to illegal immigrants simply receiving a fine. (41%) https://thehill.com/...il-fines-for-illegal-border-crossings Why do I say the professional Democrats are attacking the idea of genuine decriminalization? See this again:
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 738 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
I managed to miss this one when it came out.
I can not access the poll (it requires a subscription), but it actually can be interpreted as only 53% of Americans opposing a type of Open Borders (not exactly open borders because it does involve checks), with 39% supporting. Here I will have to try to link our way to an understanding, since I do not have the actual poll before me. It came from Rasmussen Reports
quote: Here is the way I can present the poll, by quoting the ultra-conservative source celebrating the results.
quote: Democrats have been attacking Open Borders so much lately, that there will probably be a retreat from this ONCE momentous movement toward much higher immigration. Only 53% opposed! Wow. That was EARLY 2019. Those were the days. (Democrats seem to be against making the case to change people's minds and would rather join Republicans in the smear)
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Again the question asked is pretty meaningless. What is meant by "open our borders"? Maybe we are discussing different concepts. What is your definition of open borders?
Edited by Theodoric, : QuoteFacts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7
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Faith writes: YOU are talking about "brown people," Trump is not, and the Republicans are not. Are you serious? What color were all of those people in the caravans that Republicans feared so much? Which border are the Republicans so keenly focused on? The one between the US and the brown people, or the one between the US and the overly considerate white people with endearing accents? Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
YOU are the one interested in their color, Trump is not, the Republicans are not. It's a Leftist preoccupation, the Right has no interest in their color.
And there is no evidence of the Left's weird ascription of racism or white supremacy to Trump, who has denounced both many times, yet somehow what's in Leftist heads is taken for the reality instead of the actual reality. This is of course insanity but this will not be admitted on the Left. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 738 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
quote: Who is "we"? I never know if you are talking about opinions of those polled, or my view? I better wait for a clarification from you. (I can't even talk about Democratic primary issues without you finding all sorts of views to plaster me with) (Theodoric is good at pulling stuff out of his a$$ and then launching the sticky (?) stuff at his target)
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Done here too.
Good day Sir!Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 738 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
Run from any and all attempts to respond to you.
You said, in the other thread, that I would ignore the links you gave me. You then bragged that they had links to the source material, which you said I would ignore. I went to your links. Then: I actually found the source material. (I have been searching the internet to get all the relevant information, relative to the discussion, in your other topic)
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck - not just people preoccupied with ducks. YOU are the one interested in their color, Trump is not, the Republicans are not. It's a Leftist preoccupation, the Right has no interest in their color."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yeah but it doesn't, it's purely in the imagination of his opponents.
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