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Author Topic:   Did the Flood really happen?
jar
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Message 845 of 2370 (859310)
07-30-2019 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 844 by Percy
07-30-2019 4:40 PM


Re: once again now: the strata would originally NOT have been where the diagram has them
The problem with your explanation; " They were eroded away as they uplifted."; is that that takes time. Millions of years.
But Faith "knows" it all happened in the year of the flood and the few thousand years before the drawings were made.

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jar
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Message 887 of 2370 (859520)
08-01-2019 9:28 AM
Reply to: Message 886 by Percy
08-01-2019 7:42 AM


Re: AgainRe: evidence?
Percy writes:
Of course the oceans are not the land, but the world wide geologic column exists everywhere around the globe.
Today that is true. What is Ocean base today is not the land. But much of what is today land was once Ocean base.
The problem is that that is simply another piece of evidence that the Earth is NOT 6000 years old but rather billions of years old.

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jar
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Message 908 of 2370 (859692)
08-02-2019 1:22 PM
Reply to: Message 895 by Faith
08-02-2019 11:46 AM


Re: evidence?
Faith writes:
And how many times do *I* have to tell YOU that the oceans are not building on the geological column?
It doesn't matter how many times you repeat utter nonsense, it still remains nonsense; just boring nonsense.

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jar
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Message 917 of 2370 (859703)
08-02-2019 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 909 by Faith
08-02-2019 1:24 PM


You continuing to repeat nonsense is just repeating nonsense Faith.
Faith writes:
Uh huh, but there's no point in pretending I haven't answered a nonsensical point when I have, whether you like it or not.
Continuing to pretend you have actually provided evidence that shows the geological is not continuing to grow and change over time is not actually providing evidence that shows the geological is not continuing to grow and change over time.
What evidence is there that the process that has created the Geological Column as exists today does not continue?

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jar
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Message 922 of 2370 (859716)
08-02-2019 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 918 by Faith
08-02-2019 1:45 PM


Re: You continuing to repeat nonsense is just repeating nonsense Faith.
Faith writes:
Well, but I HAVE provided such evidence.
Then you can provide a link to the posts where you provided the information.
Or stop lying.
Whichever is easier.

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jar
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Message 1001 of 2370 (859966)
08-04-2019 7:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1000 by Faith
08-04-2019 7:02 PM


Basics Faith, basics.
If I have a stack of coins and I put a new coin on top, do I still have a stack of coins?

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jar
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Message 1003 of 2370 (859970)
08-04-2019 8:57 PM
Reply to: Message 1002 by Faith
08-04-2019 7:38 PM


Re: Basics Faith, basics.
Faith writes:
If you have a stack of thirty silver dollars and you put a dime on top of it -- or even three or four dimes -- are you continuing the same stack of coins?
Yes, Faith, yes you are. And in fact that is exactly what is seen in reality; stacks that contain different types of rock.
Faith writes:
And if you have a stack of thirty silver dollars on the table and you put a stack of three silver dollars on the floor are you continuing the same stack of coins?
Of course not. And in fact that is exactly what is seen in reality; the cores in the geological column from different places will have differing layers of rock.
Thank you Faith, you have just agreed that the geological column is still growing and that no two geological columns from different areas will be exactly the same.
It really is that simple Faith.
The Flood and Young Earth are simply silly.

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jar
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Message 1022 of 2370 (860021)
08-05-2019 9:50 AM


Back to the coins.
Imagine a stack of coins with coins from many different countries. Now imagine that several different kids made stacks using the coins that they had found, again, coins from many different countries.
Now imagine a scientist examining each of the different stacks. He will look at each coin and be able to tell what country it came from and even what type of coin it is.
That's exactly what we see in the cores made all over the world, layers that can be identified individually showing the type of material and even it's source; whether it was from an ocean floor or lake bed or volcano or forest or river bed or desert or ...
Each core from the geologic column from all over the earth is unique and each column is constantly changing; sometimes material being added and sometimes material being removed. But the changes all come at the very top of the stack.

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jar
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Message 1035 of 2370 (860044)
08-05-2019 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 1027 by JonF
08-05-2019 10:31 AM


Re: Basics Faith, basics.
Again, trying to take Baby Steps for Faith. See Message 1022.

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jar
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Message 1095 of 2370 (860195)
08-06-2019 7:59 AM
Reply to: Message 1087 by PaulK
08-05-2019 11:54 PM


Re: Geological Column/ Time Scale is Over and Done With
And as a matter of fact it is possible to look at the cores and determine the original source of the materials in each layer as shown in the very images Faith included in one of her posts.

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jar
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Message 1191 of 2370 (860559)
08-08-2019 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1180 by Faith
08-08-2019 11:28 AM


Re: Geological Column/ Time Scale is Over and Done With
Faith writes:
The Bible is the source of my thinking on this subject so it IS a scientific text on this subject.
No Faith, despite your delusions the Bible is not a scientific text and since it is filled with contradictions and two mutually exclusive flood tales it would never qualify as a scientific text under ANY conditions.
Reality once again shows you are wrong and even the Bible itself shows you are wrong.

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jar
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Message 1246 of 2370 (860952)
08-14-2019 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 1245 by Faith
08-14-2019 12:34 PM


Re: Green River Varve timing -- update
Faith writes:
It's ONLY the timing problems that are the problem.
That and physics, chemistry, geology, archeology, paleontology, radiometric data, anthropology and of course the Bible itself.

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jar
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Message 1260 of 2370 (868295)
12-10-2019 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 1259 by Faith
12-10-2019 11:06 AM


Re: Basics Faith, basics.
The Bible is filled with falsehoods, fantasy, contradictions and just plain errors.
The two Flood Myths as well as the two Creation Myths and the Conquest of Canaan and the Exodus are just a few such examples.

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jar
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Message 1285 of 2370 (868712)
12-17-2019 12:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1284 by Faith
12-17-2019 12:46 PM


Re: Basics Faith, basics.
You have no theory Faith and have never even shown that you have a clue what a theory is.
But there is NO tectonic activity in either of the Flood myths and no model, mechanism, method, process or procedure for any flood to create mountain raising tectonic activity.
The Biblical Floods are not alternative theories but just fantasy.
AbE:
You and your cult can create God and Bible in your image but you cannot create physics, chemistry, geology or reality in your image.
Edited by jar, : see AbE:

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jar
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Message 1290 of 2370 (868717)
12-17-2019 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1289 by Faith
12-17-2019 1:01 PM


Re: Basics Faith, basics.
Once again you are simply creating a Bible in your own image. There are no earthquakes mentioned in either Biblical Flood tale.

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