I Know That God Does Not Exist

If you are going to refer to historical facts, such as how Buddhists supposedly persecuted some group or other, you need to describe the situation at least, say which Buddhism you are talking about since there are many versions of it and so on.As for religion poisoning everything, funny how the greatest number of murders in the name of ideologies were done in the last century by secular ideologies. (Interestingly, however, there was Catholic influence in many of them, even on Hitler and Stalin but also Pol Pot, and it was a Catholic radio broadcast that caused the murders in Rwanda.)_ Today Christians are being persecuted by the leaders of Communist China. They do this from time to time and there is currently a new wave of it. Some religious persecutions also continue though, against Christians by Hindus in India and all over Asia and Africa by Muslims.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

It's your job to present the evidence, not require me to look it up.And since Comte is of course an example there's no reason to expect anything better from the rest of it. I trust my own sources, which are listed at the link I posted.
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You are consumed with hatred for religion, and that doesn't give you much credibility on this topic.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

As long as you keep calling Catholicism "Christian" you have no credibility with me at all. Catholicism is paganism and the Pope is Anticrhist according to the Protestant Reformers. Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mussolini, the Rwandans, were all CATHOLICS, not Christians. However, all those regimes were considered to be secular. The IRA were Catholic and the Irish conflicts were all fomented by the Catholic Church.I don't know what religious influences there wre on Mao or Genghis Khan. Perhaps you can enlighten me. Certainly not Protestant thoughAnd Islam at the moment is the other great persecutor of everybody else. They are particularly persecuting Christians all over the world. Although it is strenuously denied they've already begun their persecutions in Europe. Their military inroads into Europe back in the 1500s were stopped but there's every reason to suppose they've resumed in our time by a different strategy.Calling all this the work of "religion" instead of the work of murderous pagan ideologies utterly misses the point in a very dangerous way.Jefferson, Adams, Paine, etc. were all philosophically Protestant, having been soaked in the Bible. The philosophical underpinnings of the American Constitution are fundamentally Biblical.

What utter ignorance. It took the Protestant Reformation to RECOVER true Christianity from the pagan Antichrist Roman Church and if that hadn't happened, HOWEVER IMPERFECT PROTESTANTISM MAY BE, there would never have been the kind of freedoms the American Constitution enshrines (which are now being perverted by the Left and may soon have disappeared altogether, but anyway).Your comments on the Old Testament are virulently ignorant. The First Commandment has never been given up and if it ever is THEN you'll see oppression unleashed of a sort you can't even dream of. You unbelievers have no clue and your lack of knowledge is going to usher in exactly what you think you are objecting to. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

By studying the same scientific texts. What else?

You don't build a peaceful happy world by pretending that dangerous people are not dangerous, that way is guaranteed to bring the very murder and mayhem you want to avoid. This kind of cowardly pretense is going on with the denials that Islam is dangerous. Not "Muslims," since there is no way to know how much of their religion or which version of it they hold without investigation, but Islam itself. Yes the Reformers by using biblical clues discovered that the papacy is the Antichrist. This one right now is a particularly good example. And again this isn't about Catholics in general, it's about the papacy.

You know zip about any of this. I guess Ayn Rand didn't either. There should be no enmity between Christians and those of other persuasions, certainly not based on OUR beliefs. So no I am not "encouraging enmity" nor is any other Christian. Christianity is tolerant. Islam is not. Neither is Catholicism. Neither is Hinduism apparently. I thought Buddhism was but there seem to be some varieties of it that are not.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

As I said, you know absolutely zip about any of this.it was true Christianity that was the basis for the principle of religious tolerance, not liberal "Christianity."

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Comparison between belief in God or gods and belief in a flat earth isn't exactly defensible. Most cultures believed in the flat earth and when a few philosophers started to propose the spherical idea it took a while for it to take hold. It was defended by scientific observations. so, depending on how "irrational" is defined, we can say belief in the flat earth is irrational after it's been proven to be wrong.But there's nothing comparable in the history of belief in gods. it was just decided by some that the belief is irrational but there's no way to prove it, no scientific evidence that can be brought to bear on the subject. People still experience the supernatural and know you are wrong. So your argument is pure personal bias, without any sort of proof. Again it depends on how "irrational" is defined but since you can't prove belief in gods to be wrong you can't rightly say that belief is irrational.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Which I guess is a way of saying they don't stand for anything, but true Christianity shouldn't try to force anything on anyone either. Maybe people get offended when given the salvation message of course. I had to look up "Christian identity" because I'd never heard of it, certainly doesn't sound Christian. Most churches preach against the televangelists and try to warn people against them. There are some good ones but a lot of them "fleece the flock" for money and live hugely extravagant lives, which is certainly not Christian either. Nor is violence against abortion clinics, which is thankfully fairly rare.You may be right. Sorry.

Some supposed phantasms are actually real, some are invented, some are intuited, some are small, some are big, I see quite a bit of difference myself. But I hope tangle comes along soon and gives his two cents' worth.

You asked if AZ saw a difference between a fairy and a mainstream god. I don't think you addressed that.

Except of course things that have no physical substance but nevertheless do exist and exert influence in the physical world. Minds for instance. And God is Spirit to whom the same description applies.When people in great numbers, and people of good character, claim to have witnessed the reality of such phenomena the rational thing to do is believe them. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I wonder what you'd do if you actually saw a "god," as some people I've talked to told me they did (sorry I'm lumping too many different kinds of supernatural experiences together here) -- but called them "angels" or "demons," which is what the Bible says they are anyway. Would you deny it I wonder? Check yourself into a hospital?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.