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Message 4 of 67 (860647)
08-09-2019 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Thugpreacha
08-09-2019 11:26 AM


Re: Hate Can Take many Forms
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The picture of Obama was a way to call me a racist for objecting to something that had no racism in it. The usual Leftist tactic of trying to destroy your opponent.

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Message 6 of 67 (860650)
08-09-2019 2:59 PM
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08-09-2019 2:49 PM


It's not about race, it's about political ideologies
Rewriting this post to get the angry rant out of it:

I did condemn that picture of Obama on that other thread. I also pointed out that my motives aren't about race, that I would have liked to have Alan Keyes for President, that I like Clarence Thomas' Constitutional thinking etc. If I had a problem with race I couldn't support either of them. I'd also add that I like what I've heard from Thomas Sowell and Allen West, both blacks. I also like Dinesh D'Souza who is from India. Etc etc etc. It's about politics and ideologies, not race, and the same is true for Trump.

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Message 8 of 67 (860655)
08-09-2019 3:20 PM
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08-09-2019 3:12 PM


Re: Hate Can Take many Forms
I'm trying to stop the angry reactions even to the things I hate so i'm rewriting this one among others:

There was no call to put up that picture, the original subject was not race. I'd never seen that picture before and certainly don't approve of it.

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Message 11 of 67 (860669)
08-09-2019 5:18 PM
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08-09-2019 3:46 PM


Re: Hate Can Take many Forms
I apologize for my impulsive reaction on the other thread. Your post was humorous and at least humorously intended. So I'm sorry.

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Message 12 of 67 (860750)
08-11-2019 2:45 PM
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08-09-2019 3:12 PM


Re: Hate Can Take many Forms
True, you didn't call anyone names, but posting that picture is a racist thing to do so when you repost it in the context of that thread you are calling me a racist.

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Message 13 of 67 (860753)
08-11-2019 2:59 PM
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08-09-2019 10:25 AM


General Apology
Just a general note: I don't want to continue blowing up at people here. Every now and then I try to stop it but end up going back to it anyway. I have a strong angry streak and it easily overwhelms me. Of course if I were being careful to seek Jesus every day as I know I should He would no doubt have a tempering effect on me, but I don't and at some point I feel that angry reaction rising up again. That's inevitable I suppose on a forum like this where I'm defending positions that oppose those of the majority here, as long as I don't stay close to God.

I've been reading some of the poetry of German Protestant mystic Gerhard Tersteegen lately, and his insistence on Jesus' teachings to die to ourselves, love our enemies, bless our persecutors and so on is having a good effect on me. So far so good. When I erupt again, which I hope won't happen but there are no guarantees, I hope I'll at least remember sooner and correct course.

So this is a general apology. I've been rewriting some of my more intemperate posts and will continue as I discover them. Since they've often been quoted by others you don't need to worry about losing a record of my excesses.

Thanks.

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Message 15 of 67 (860766)
08-11-2019 5:14 PM
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08-11-2019 3:30 PM


Re: General Apology
Yes it is off topic so if I'm able to stick to it, which I fervently hope I can, maybe I shouldn't post on this thread.

Things I dislike about authoritarian conservatives:

They want to make America great and let the rest of the world fend for itself.

This strikes me as very strange for more than one reason. We have responsibility for America, don't we? Certainly that's the job of our President, to protect and defend and promote America. And through conservative eyes America has been unfairly attacked by the Left for decades now, reaching a pinnacle under Obama who truly seems to hate the nation. The Left has a strongly anti-American bias to the point of seeking our destruction. I felt this even back when it got its powerful sixties impetus. The rallying cry about America being "imperialist" was a vicious joke to my ears. America that defended Europe in the last war with our own blood and spent our own money to rebuild it? Imperialist? I wasn't very political at the time but I would have said I was a liberal just because everybody around me was a liberal. It took a while, in fact it took becoming a Christian, to recognize that most of my feelings were conservative. It hurt to hear America put down by people who seemed to have no idea what America was about, but I didn't know how to answer them until much later.

As for caring about the rest of the world, ONLY AMERICA HAS EVER CARED ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD, so to put us down for that supposed lack is a horrifying lie. But we can't help anybody if we are weakened from within which is what has been happening thanks to the Marxist influence in our universities, that has been growing since the sixties. This is why we need Trump and need to be saved from the Marxist-inspired hatred of America which will only turn us into a third world swamp. Trump is far from perfect but he is THE ONLY PRESIDENT WE'VE HAD FOR DECADES WHO GETS WHAT WE NEED. I wish he were better at bringing it about.

I'm sorry you think Jesus would support socialism or that socialism has anything to offer America. I think we need a return to the kind of education that would help us all understand better why this is NOT what we need, the kind of education that was at least nominally presented as a requirement in all the universities until the sixties Marxists started dominating them. There used to be required courses in American History and Institutions and Western Civilization in all the universities. The Marxists got them thrown out, so as a result we have generations of university graduates who have no idea what our history is and think socialism is just fine because they've never been taught anything else.

I get that you are torn between some liberal positions and some conservative ones, and that discussion could get well beyond my abilities pretty rapidly, but the idea that people who are wealthier than you are have any desire or ability to deprive you of money is a liberal lie.

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Message 20 of 67 (860906)
08-13-2019 10:05 AM
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08-13-2019 6:43 AM


Re: Patriots In Hong Kong
Yes they are strongly respecting our way of life. I gather it was my question marks that caused a doubt about why I posted the Hong Kong picture? I was very surprised to find Chinese expressing such feelings for the US, that's all. I knew they were protesting in favor of democracy but identifying with us in such a political way was a big surprise. A HAPPY surprise of course. Very touching.

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Faith
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Message 22 of 67 (860909)
08-13-2019 10:29 AM
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08-13-2019 6:43 AM


Re: Patriots In Hong Kong
The fact is that the wealthier people expect the US middle class to support itself...in a world where we have to work harder and get educated simply to keep up with the competitive nature of the rest of the planet. I suppose this is not directly the wealthier peoples fault...but it exposes the idea that they look out only for themselves and do not want to help their fellow brethren succeed.

At least among Christians I was impressed very early on in my experiences of church that the wealthy members are extraordinarily generous toward those in need, both those in the church and those outside. Always writing out checks.

This whole idea that marxists dominate the University campuses is also one-sided. You get your information wearing rose colored glasses. Christians are not only conservatives nor should they be.

It's a simple fact, Thugs, since the sixties the Marxists that were so vocal in those years went on to become university professors and teach Marxist concepts to the next generations. It's a fact. I don't know why you aren't aware of it. It has nothing to do with my being a Christian or a conservative -- which I wasn't until the middle eighties anyway, maybe even more accurately the nineties. The atmosphere was heavy with Marxism in the sixties, at least where I was, and in most of the other university towns in the nation. I had had a boyfriend as a matter of fact who went on to become one of those professors of Marxism, a history professor but strongly Marxist.

This isn't going to sit well with some here but I would mention that even citizens of the US can hold ideologies that oppose the very essence of the nation and might even under some circumstances be considered treasonous. That would be us conservatives of course, from the dominant point of view here.

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Message 23 of 67 (860910)
08-13-2019 10:33 AM
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08-13-2019 10:24 AM


Re: Patriots In Hong Kong
I remember the famous image from Tienanmen Square of the man standing off the tanks, but I wasn't following the events and don't remember the statue of Liberty.

I've been trying not to think of what's going to happen to them. Pray for them of course.

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Message 29 of 67 (861691)
08-25-2019 2:41 PM
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08-25-2019 2:28 PM


Re: The Kochs & Soros
Couldn't help noticing the political tendentiousness of these two titles, meaning they are both from the Leftist perspective:

George Soros: Billionaire philanthropist the far right loves to hate

Why Do People Hate the Koch Brothers? Their Political Influence Does Not Sit Well With Many Americans

It's the "FAR right" who object to Soros, and only the far right, though in my experience it's the Right, period, the legitimate Right. We all have a problem with Soros who finances every kind of destructive attack on American and conservative concerns.

But of course it's all "Americans," not just the Far Left or even the Left as such, who particularly hate the Koch brothers. Now it's "Americans" who are far left, while it's only the "far right" who hate Soros. Is this just the usual media bias showing or is it an intentional attempt to influence the reader?


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Message 31 of 67 (861693)
08-25-2019 2:47 PM
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08-25-2019 2:45 PM


Re: The Kochs & Soros
A conservative can't help noticing that just about all the headlines we see anywhere, in print or on the internet, are skewed strongly Left. Google has become more Leftist by the day it seems.

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Message 37 of 67 (861701)
08-25-2019 3:19 PM
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08-25-2019 2:55 PM


Re: The Media In General Is More Left Than Right
One article seemingly from the right doesn't tell us much. Since that is the Wall Street Journal I'd have to read the whole thing to assess it. And I didn't say there is a total absence of conservative points of view, but you usually have to look to find them, on the inner pages of Google rather than the first page for instance.

Mark Levin's most recent book, Unfreedom of the Press, that I've recommended a number of times now, covers the history of how the press gave up any pretense to objective coverage of the news and became the partisan mouthpiece of the Left.

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Message 50 of 67 (861801)
08-27-2019 10:20 AM
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08-27-2019 8:14 AM


Re: Response to Percy from thread
That quote is remarkable for saying absolutely nothing about the beneficiaries of Koch's philanthropies. It's nothing but denigrating opinion and namecalling.

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Message 51 of 67 (861802)
08-27-2019 10:24 AM
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08-25-2019 5:09 PM


Re: The Media In General Is More Corporate Profit than News
Levin uses pretty strong language against the Left, so what? The tactice of focusing on such language only has the purpose of dismissing the serious scholarly work he's done. It's all a smear campaign of labeling and discrediting by insinuation, which is THE Leftist M.O. How telling, how typical, that you don't post an analysis of his thoughtful arguments (of which I suspect you are completely ignorant) but focus only on personality. If the Left does attempt to analyze the work of its opponents, however, it all comes down to this sort of emotional smear anyway.

My guess would be that Michael Savage's language is probably stronger. I like a lot of what he says too, although compared to Levin he's very uneven and I'm often put off by him. But again, so what? The level of sheer vitriol at EvC against the right must be comparable.

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