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JonF Member Posts: 5627 Joined: Member Rating: 2.6
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By what measure? China, Russia, Germany, Japan, and the UK have foreign aid programs comparable to ours and people involved in construction and direct aid world-wide. Some sources say China outspends us in foreign aid. Of course, Trump’s made it clear "America First" is "America Alone", by insulting and alienating our friends and allies. He's also made it clear we can't be trusted to stand by our commitments. That's why the world is realigning to avoid America. Such as patrolling the Persian Gulf. Trump called for a multinational effort and nobody answered. The UK put together a multinational force and didn't ask us to the dance. (The UK may allow us in with Johnson ASPM). Both Germany and France have explicitly stated they don't trust the US to keep our NATO commitments. Or the fight over Kashmir. Trump claimed he had been asked to mediate. India and Pakistan both said "bullshit, and kindly f*** off". TPP, the Iran deal, and the Paris accord are proceeding without us. This guy nailed it: quote:
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ringo Member Posts: 17679 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.1
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Those leftists are Americans too. It is not presidential to vilify a large proportion of his own people. "Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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Thugpreacha Member Posts: 13388 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Also...responding to Faith in another thread:
They are waving our flag and singing our anthem in Hong Kong????? Judging from the many comments from the video, it appears that they are respecting the United States way of life rather than attacking it. Where did you get any other idea? Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 4788 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
What "other idea"? I don't think she meant her post as a negative. Regardless of our internal differences in this world, at least in China, the USofA is still a beacon of freedom. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given. Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith Member Posts: 33914 From: Nevada, USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Yes they are strongly respecting our way of life. I gather it was my question marks that caused a doubt about why I posted the Hong Kong picture? I was very surprised to find Chinese expressing such feelings for the US, that's all. I knew they were protesting in favor of democracy but identifying with us in such a political way was a big surprise. A HAPPY surprise of course. Very touching.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 4788 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Then you don't remember Tiananmen Square and the Goddess of Liberty statue said to be inspired by our own Statue of Liberty. They were looking to get our attention then and they are looking to get our attention now. Though our hearts go out to them I think we all know where this is headed. There will not be a pleasant outcome. Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith Member Posts: 33914 From: Nevada, USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
At least among Christians I was impressed very early on in my experiences of church that the wealthy members are extraordinarily generous toward those in need, both those in the church and those outside. Always writing out checks.
It's a simple fact, Thugs, since the sixties the Marxists that were so vocal in those years went on to become university professors and teach Marxist concepts to the next generations. It's a fact. I don't know why you aren't aware of it. It has nothing to do with my being a Christian or a conservative -- which I wasn't until the middle eighties anyway, maybe even more accurately the nineties. The atmosphere was heavy with Marxism in the sixties, at least where I was, and in most of the other university towns in the nation. I had had a boyfriend as a matter of fact who went on to become one of those professors of Marxism, a history professor but strongly Marxist. This isn't going to sit well with some here but I would mention that even citizens of the US can hold ideologies that oppose the very essence of the nation and might even under some circumstances be considered treasonous. That would be us conservatives of course, from the dominant point of view here. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith Member Posts: 33914 From: Nevada, USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
I remember the famous image from Tienanmen Square of the man standing off the tanks, but I wasn't following the events and don't remember the statue of Liberty.
I've been trying not to think of what's going to happen to them. Pray for them of course. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Hyroglyphx Member Posts: 5881 From: Austin, TX Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Having been semi-autonomous, Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan have enjoyed a much higher degree of freedom when compared to the rest of China. Once you get a taste of freedom and then get a taste of repression, its repulsive. One of the stipulations for Hong Kong as it was being transferred back to China from the UK was that it got to enjoy some economic sovereignty. The PRC is back-peddling now and becoming increasingly more authoritarian to convert Hong Kong into the rest of mainland China. Taiwan is next to fall. I don't like what I'm seeing at all. The US and the rest of the world almost certainly is not willing to go to war with China over it. They are our strongest economic partner. But we will continue to pressure them using diplomacy. Hong Kong and Taiwan deserves the world's support. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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PaulK Member Posts: 15666 Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
quote: I assume that you meant to write Macau. Taiwan is not ruled by the PRC even though they claim possession. And it has its own military, and enough support from the US to deter a Chinese attack. Unless you expect Trump to throw Taiwan under the bus and allow the Chinese to invade Taiwan for some promises of economic concessions I don’t see the Chinese risking it.
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Hyroglyphx Member Posts: 5881 From: Austin, TX Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Many Chinese citizens aren't even aware that such an event took place, as their great Firewall of China has scrubbed their internet clean of the event. They treat it like the 13th floor and pretend it doesn't exist. They obviously have taken active measures to not having the next generation getting any wise ideas from the past. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Thugpreacha Member Posts: 13388 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I'll move this over here.
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I suspect you've hit the nail on the head, Faith. The Koch Brothers were the conservative versions of George Soros. I'll research a bit to add fuel to our Hate Thread. George Soros: Billionaire philanthropist the far right loves to hate Edited by Thugpreacha, : added comment Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
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ringo Member Posts: 17679 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.1 |
quote:To paraphrase: Even a conservative doesn't have to be an idiot. "Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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Faith Member Posts: 33914 From: Nevada, USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Couldn't help noticing the political tendentiousness of these two titles, meaning they are both from the Leftist perspective:
It's the "FAR right" who object to Soros, and only the far right, though in my experience it's the Right, period, the legitimate Right. We all have a problem with Soros who finances every kind of destructive attack on American and conservative concerns. But of course it's all "Americans," not just the Far Left or even the Left as such, who particularly hate the Koch brothers. Now it's "Americans" who are far left, while it's only the "far right" who hate Soros. Is this just the usual media bias showing or is it an intentional attempt to influence the reader?
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Thugpreacha Member Posts: 13388 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I just pulled them off the internet...I never really thought about the media sources in general. I googled "Why do the left hate Soros? and "Why do the Right hate the Koch Brothers.
I have heard, however, that media in general is left of center ideologically. Being a political moderate, I usually read several articles from different sources, but I never really consider that the way articles are written surreptitiously forms my political views. Should I? Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
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